Liverpool thread 2017/18

[blue by birth]

What was the unemployment rate in Merseyside then?

Liverpool's militant labour council of the 1980's was practically at war with Thatcher's tory government.

Same as it is now...no C.unt working apart from on the fiddle.

 

[M18CTID]

This is proper ‘istree’ you dippers. It’s not just a list of trophies won.

Yep. I know the 80’s were shit all round for attendances and you would often get big fluctuations on a week to week basis but considering Liverpool were reigning league champions and would go on that season to win it for the 3rd year in a row, as well as winning the European Cup and the League Cup, I find some of those attendances nothing short of astonishing. As I stated, City were in the 2nd division that season, finishing 4th and therefore didn’t get promoted. Yet our last home game of the season, despite being an utterly meaningless affair against Cambridge, still attracted a crowd of over 20,000. We also had two 40,000+ home crowds in the league that season against Sheffield Wednesday and Newcastle. Liverpool were in the division above, won the league title, and guess how many 40,000+ league crowds they got at Anfield? That’s right - the same as us.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Yep. I know the 80’s were shit all round for attendances and you would often get big fluctuations on a week to week basis but considering Liverpool were reigning league champions and would go on that season to win it for the 3rd year in a row, as well as winning the European Cup and the League Cup, I find some of those attendances nothing short of astonishing. As I stated, City were in the 2nd division that season, finishing 4th and therefore didn’t get promoted. Yet our last home game of the season, despite being an utterly meaningless affair against Cambridge, still attracted a crowd of over 20,000. We also had two 40,000+ home crowds in the league that season against Sheffield Wednesday and Newcastle. Liverpool were in the division above, won the league title, and guess how many 40,000+ league crowds they got at Anfield? That’s right - the same as us.

Strange that the Dippers never quote these type of statistics .

Don't things like that appear in their 'istree ?

 

[KnaresboroughBlue]

European Cup Record

1965
1st Round - KR Reykjavik 5-0, 6-1 (11-1)
2nd Round - Anderlecht 3-0, 1-0 (4-0)
Quarter-Final - Cologne 0-0, 0-0 (0-0) replay 2-2 - won on coin toss
Semi-Final - Internazionale 3-1, 0-3 (3-4)

1967
1st Round - Petrolul Ploiesti 2-0, 1-3 (3-3) replay 2-0
2nd Round - Ajax 1-5, 2-2 (3-7)

1974
1st Round - Jeunesse Esch 1-1, 2-0 (3-1)
2nd Round - Red Star Belgrade 1-2, 1-2 (2-4)

1977
1st Round - Crusaders 2-0, 5-0 (7-0)
2nd Round - Tabzonspor 0-1, 3-0 (3-1)
Quarter-Final - St Etienne 0-1, 3-1 (3-2)
Semi-Final - FC Zurich 3-1, 3-0 (6-1)
Final - Borussia Moenchengladbach 3-1
WINNERS

1978
2nd Round - Dynamo Dresden 5-1, 1-2 (6-3)
Quarter-Final - Benfica 2-1, 4-1 (6-2)
Semi-Final - Borussia Moenchengladbach 1-2, 3-0 (4-2)
Final - Bruges 1-0
WINNERS

1979
1st Round - Nottingham Forest 0-2, 0-0 (0-2)

1980
1st Round - Dinamo Tbilisi 2-1, 0-3 (2-4)

1981 FUCK ME, A PROPER COUPLE OF GAMES!!
1st Round - Oulu Palloseura 1-1, 10-1 (11-2)
2nd Round - Aberdeen 1-0, 4-0 (5-0)
Quarter-Final - CSKA Sofia 5-1, 1-0 (6-1)
Semi-Final - Bayern Munich 0-0, 1-1 (1-1) won on away goals
Final - Real Madrid 1-0
WINNERS

1982
1st Round - Oulu Palloseura 1-0, 7-0 (8-0)
2nd Round - AZ Alkmaar 2-2, 3-2 (5-4)
Quarter-Final - CSKA Sofia 1-0, 0-2 (1-2)

1983
1st Round - Dundalk 4-1, 1-0 (5-1)
2nd Round - HJK Helsinki 0-1, 5-0 (5-1)
Quarter-Final - Widzew Lodz 0-2, 3-2 (3-4)

1984
1st Round - Odense 1-0, 5-0 (6-0)
2nd Round - Athletic Bilbao 0-0, 1-0 (1-0)
Quarter-Final - Benfica 1-0, 4-1 (5-1)
Semi-Final - Dinamo Bucharest 1-0, 2-1 (3-1)
Final - Roma 1-1 won on penalties
WINNERS

1985
1st Round - Lech Poznan 1-0, 4-0 (5-0)
2nd Round - Benfica 3-1, 0-1 (3-2)
Quarter-Final - FK Austria 1-1, 4-1 (5-2)
Semi-Final - Panathinaikos 4-0, 1-0 (5-0)
Final - Juventus 0-1

2002
3rd Qualifying Round - Haka 5-0, 4-1 (9-1) 1st Round Group
Boavista 1-1, 1-1
Borussia Dortmund 0-0, 2-0
Dynamo Kiev 1-0, 2-1 (1st place)
2nd Round Group
Barcelona 1-3, 0-0
Roma 0-0, 2-0
Galatasaray 0-0, 1-1 (2nd place)
Quarter-Final - Bayer Leverkusen 1-0, 2-4 (3-4)

2003
1st Round Group
Valencia 0-2, 0-1
Spartak Moscow 5-0, 3-1
Basel 1-1, 3-3 (3rd place)

2005
3rd Qualifying Round - Grazer AK 2-0, 0-1 (2-1)
1st Round Group
Monaco 2-0, 0-1
Olympiakos 0-1, 3-1
Deportivo La Coruna 0-0, 1-0 (2nd place)
2nd Round - Bayer Leverkusen 3-1, 3-1 (6-2)
Quarter-Final - Juventus 2-1, 0-0 (2-1)
Semi-Final - Chelsea 0-0, 1-0 (1-0)
Final - AC Milan 3-3 won on penalties
WINNERS

2006
1st Qualifying Round - TNS 3-0, 3-0 (6-0)
2nd Qualifying Round - Kaunas 3-1, 2-0 (5-1)
3rd Qualifying Round - CSKA Sofia 3-1, 0-1 (3-2)
1st Round Group
Betis 2-1, 0-0
Chelsea 0-0, 0-0
Anderlecht 1-0, 3-0 (1st place)
2nd Round - Benfica 0-1, 0-2 (0-3)

2007
3rd Qualifying Round - Maccabi Haifa 2-1, 1-1 (3-2)
1st Round Group
PSV Eindhoven 0-0, 2-0
Galatasaray 3-2, 2-3
Bordeaux 1-0, 3-0 (1st place)
2nd Round - Barcelona 2-1, 0-1 (2-2) won on away goals
Quarter-Final - PSV Eindhoven 3-0, 1-0 (4-0)
Semi-Final - Chelsea 0-1, 1-0 (1-1) won on penalties
Final - AC Milan 1-2

2008
3rd Qualifying Round - Toulouse 1-0, 4-0 (5-0)
1st Round Group
Porto 1-1, 4-1
Marseille 0-1, 4-0
Besiktas 1-2, 8-0 (2nd place)
2nd Round - Internazionale 2-0, 1-0 (3-0)
Quarter-Final - Arsenal 1-1, 4-2 (5-3)
Semi-Final - Chelsea 1-1, 2-3 (3-4)

2009
3rd Qualifying Round - Standard Liege 0-0, 1-0 (1-0)
1st Round Group
Marseille 2-1, 1-0
PSV Eindhoven 3-1, 3-1
Atletico Madrid 1-1, 1-1 (1st place)
2nd Round - Real Madrid 1-0, 4-0 (5-0)
Quarter-Final - Chelsea 1-3, 4-4 (5-7)

2010
1st Round Group
Debreceni 1-0, 1-0
Fiorentina 0-2, 1-2
Lyon 1-2, 1-1 (3rd place)

2015
1st Round Group
Ludogorets 2-1, 2-2
FC Basel 0-1, 1-1
Real Madrid 0-3, 0-1 (3rd place)

2018
Qualifying Play-Off Round - Hoffenheim 4-2, 2-1 (6-3)
1st Round Group
Sevilla 2-2, 3-3
Spartak Moscow 1-1, 7-0
Maribor 7-0, 3-0 (1st place)
2nd Round - Porto 5-0, 0-0 (5-0)
Quarter-Final - Manchester City

WANKERS

It's easy to forget what a poor competition the old European cup was compared to the modern day Champion's League. They really shouldn't be classed as being of the same value.

 

[Leto]

Juve have 2 European cups,so you're equating their annual qualification for the CL as being a bonafied european giant and winning leagues every year in 2nd gear in a awful uncompetitive league.

They don't have the european cup pedigree yet,2 is the same as benfica porto and forest,Inter Milan have 3 European cups and juve trail them as italian winners of the European cup.

Real madrid (12 european Cups)
AC Milan (7 European cups)
Liverpool ( 5 european cup)
Bayern (5 European cups) won 3 in a row 74,75,76.
Barca (5 european cups)
Ajax (4 European cups) won 3 in a row. 71,72,73.

Those are the elite bonafied giants of european football and that's why these clubs wear the Uefa badge of Honour when they play in Europe,win it 3 years in a row or win it 5 times then you get that elite european status.

Well done Liverpool, but so what?

Blackburn Rovers won the FA Cup 3 times in a row and no other team has ever repeated that feat, are the current Rovers team a bona fide FA Cup giant? Are they bollocks.

History is important but it is in the past. King Kenny's silky skills and even more recently Stevie G's heroics are nice things to have happened for you and your club, but they have have no bearing on whether or not Hendo and Lovren are going to be good enough to win the trophy this season. To think other wise is overly romantic at best and outright delusional at worst.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It's easy to forget what a poor competition the old European cup was compared to the modern day Champion's League. They really shouldn't be classed as being of the same value.

This is a controversial view amongst many, including plenty of City fans, but one I wholeheartedly agree with. The notion that playing the champions of countries like Albania and Montenegro is harder (or equal to) playing the second placed teams in Spain and Italy is patently absurd, especially given how mutable national boundaries have been in Europe since the war. The Yugoslavian Champions must have comprised about seven different national associations; does that make the European Cup wins of Red Star Belgrade hold more or less currency?

Saying a knockout competition comprising the champions of each member of a UEFA is the best way to determine the greatest team in Europe is European football’s equivalent of the Second Amendment: dogmatic, anachronistic, illogical and ultimately misguided.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Juve have 2 European cups,so you're equating their annual qualification for the CL as being a bonafied european giant and winning leagues every year in 2nd gear in a awful uncompetitive league.

They don't have the european cup pedigree yet,2 is the same as benfica porto and forest,Inter Milan have 3 European cups and juve trail them as italian winners of the European cup.

Real madrid (12 european Cups)
AC Milan (7 European cups)
Liverpool ( 5 european cup)
Bayern (5 European cups) won 3 in a row 74,75,76.
Barca (5 european cups)
Ajax (4 European cups) won 3 in a row. 71,72,73.

Those are the elite bonafied giants of european football and that's why these clubs wear the Uefa badge of Honour when they play in Europe,win it 3 years in a row or win it 5 times then you get that elite european status.

Liverpool are not part of the current european elite , your last Champs league win was 13 years ago , and you have struggled to even qualify for over a decade , its quite simple 'istree doesnt win football matches , did your nineteen league titles help you in 2014 ? No Dipper has any right to mention Juventus in any argument or make any comparison , THIRTY NINE.

 

[Petetheblu]

Juve have 2 European cups,so you're equating their annual qualification for the CL as being a bonafied european giant and winning leagues every year in 2nd gear in a awful uncompetitive league.

They don't have the european cup pedigree yet,2 is the same as benfica porto and forest,Inter Milan have 3 European cups and juve trail them as italian winners of the European cup.

Real madrid (12 european Cups)
AC Milan (7 European cups)
Liverpool ( 5 european cup)
Bayern (5 European cups) won 3 in a row 74,75,76.
Barca (5 european cups)
Ajax (4 European cups) won 3 in a row. 71,72,73.

Those are the elite bonafied giants of european football and that's why these clubs wear the Uefa badge of Honour when they play in Europe,win it 3 years in a row or win it 5 times then you get that elite european status.

Like the guy said arrogant mate to the tee. Now please fook off!

 

[Petetheblu]

No of course not, me neither. it’s a nice discussion.

I just define a selling club as one where you sell your best players to anyone besides Barca/Real.
So when Arsenal sold RVP and Sanchez to United for example.

The last time we did that. Was Torres to Chelsea

Hahaha.....so it's not selling if sold to someone bigger??? FFS get real.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Now I'm really offended by this comment on RAWK!


Yep, the majority on Blue Moon are a thoroughly nasty piece of work.
The jibes and accusations of delusion go back and forth between Red Cafe and RAWK but their fans rarely stoop to disgusting levels.

No comparison as to who is the better fan community. Also says a lot about the scum nature of the moderators on Blue Moon as to how they allow so much bile and nastiness to pass.

That was me. Sorry.