how about some help rather than forced work?Simply signing off everyone isn’t an option though is it? You can make it into a Tory issue if that makes you feel better - it clearly does, although I’m surprised you’re not blaming Israel as well - but it will be just as big a problem for the next Labour government and there’ll be making decisions which people won’t like as well.
And for many people doing some form of work would actually be beneficial, as opposed to them sitting at home on their own with little to no social interaction.
That's not going to be popular on here since it's 90% lefties and the rest centrists (yourself included).
Most people who have never suffered mental illness including anxiety and depression thinks it's just a normal feeling everyone gets now and then.People who have not been mentally ill have no idea at all what it is like. Trust me on this. I had no idea myself until it hit me. There are, of course, degrees of mental illness. My wife has a cousin who is just totally incapacitated and every so often has about six coppers out to overpower him and drag him to the hospital. You see, when he feels better, he stops taking his pills and goes back to square fucking one.
This lad used to be hard-working. Very much so. He was not one for fancies either. But one day, as he tells it, as he was driving his firm's van, cars started talking to him. He went missing for about three days, during which time he drove the van to all manner of infeasible places. He will never, ever be fit for work, never. His pills keep him calm, but take them away and he becomes an incredibly strong, violent, aggressive danger to the public.
The idea that he 'chose' to be like that is laughable. I'm certain he'd be delighted to be what he used to be, buying and selling his portfolio of shares and riding his motorbike at weekends. But he won't be. Chances are he'll die alone in a secure hospital.
If society put more resources into NHS mental health (especially psychiatrists) and if the country was more civilised, with less obsessive pressure at work, maybe, just maybe, this issue would resolve itself. But as usual, people will the end but not the means.
Just so we're clear, those weren't my words they were from Brewster himself.As an actual dyed-in-the-wool professional fence-sitting centrist, I'm often reminded by sentiments like this how fucked our Overton window is.
Or is centrist now code for "doesn't think the Tory's are a total shower of cunts". Because in that case there's maybe about 10 centrists in the whole country.
Compassion is not a leftie policy. That's just called basic decency.
Because in that case there's maybe about 10 centrists in the whole country.
Just so we're clear, those weren't my words they were from Brewster himself.
I don’t doubt that many more reforms will be required before the situation meaningfully improves.how about some help rather than forced work?
sounds a bit like that may make people with depression a lot worse if there is no help available, which there isn't.
Yes but where is the help to get people back into work if they feel up to it?I don’t doubt that many more reforms will be required before the situation meaningfully improves.
I’m simply making the point that any government, Labour or Conservative, will want to reverse the recent trend of labour market inactivity, and Labour will also make decisions that people on here will object too.
And I strongly believe that encouraging work where possible will have a positive impact for many given the wider benefits from a health perspective. Simply signing people off for an extended period isn’t going to solve anything.