General Election June 8th

[SWP's back]

Typical Tory c#nt.

Lovely.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

No live tv debates,May you are a coward Jeremy would rip you apart.

Lol

 

[stonerblue]

Xenophobia is an irrational fear or hatred of all foreigners. One can love the French but hate the Germans. Or love the Welsh but hate the Americans. That doesn't make a person xenophobic.

Nor would a Spaniard disliking Catalans, which is similar to the case in point. He may consider a separate country, but he would not be correct.

Are you saying the post wasn't xenophobic because it's not directed at ALL foreigners (just the Scots) ?

 

[NeilYoungIsBack]

Electoral calculus is tipping a 112 seat Tory majority.

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html


You can type in your postcode and see what the prediction is for your own seat. Mine (Wrexham) is tipped to fall to the Tories for the first time in its history...

 

[SWP's back]

Are you saying the post wasn't xenophobic because it's not directed at ALL foreigners (just the Scots) ?

Yes. It was anti-Scottish and not very nice. But I wouldn't say that his post in isolation is xenophobic.

I also don't class the Scotch as foreigners. We are one nation with one head of state, one currency and the same passport.

 

[cibaman]

Sadly she holds all the cards and will walk it, there's no way she'll give a sucker an even break and risk anything.

I think she'll be forced to change her mind. The debates will focus heavily on Brexit and she would be relying on Paul Nuttall to make her case.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

It's 1 in 4 in Kent, 1 in 3 in Trafford.
But Manchester has over 30 secondary schools. How do you suddenly get 10 new grammar schools? Who decides which become grammars? Can they all decide to go selective (no LA control of academies)? How much to build new schools? (Unnecessary free schools all over the place, with secret budgets - try a FoI request to find out how much per-pupil they get...)
So different chance of getting in a grammar school depending on where you live, how many other bright pupils they are in your particular year (you'd pass 11 plus one year, but "fail" the next), and whether you can afford the private tutor (or the prep school).

“At political meetings at the end of the 1960s, Edward Boyle [Minster of Education from 1962 to 1964] was torn limb from limb by conservative voters, infuriated that their children who had ‘failed’ the eleven-plus were being sent to secondary moderns, along with 70-80% of each age group. They had regarded the grammars as ‘their schools’. The eleven-plus, they said, lost them the 1964 election and would lose them every one until it was abolished. Margaret Thatcher recognised this as has every Tory party in practice ever since.” (Simon Jenkins, 2007)

In addition the authorities that have the 11 plus are open to anyone sitting the exam. Many, many children attend Trafford grammar schools from homes paying council tax to different authorities like Manchester. It must piss Trafford council tax payers off to see their own children denied places taken by outsiders.

 

[cibaman]

Electoral calculus is tipping a 112 seat Tory majority.

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html


You can type in your postcode and see what the prediction is for your own seat. Mine (Wrexham) is tipped to fall to the Tories for the first time in its history...

They're predicting Labour to lose 50 seats which is certainly possible but would mean majorities of up to 4,500 being overturned. Bearing in mind that 2015 was a very bad result for Labour, it begs the question as to how much further Corbyn can drag them down.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Electoral calculus is tipping a 112 seat Tory majority.

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html


You can type in your postcode and see what the prediction is for your own seat. Mine (Wrexham) is tipped to fall to the Tories for the first time in its history...

I'm extremely sceptical of all poll/prediction sites. I think they should be forced to show who funds & operates them. Like it or not, people are swayed by what they think the majority are thinking. No better than press bias in my opinion.

On a side point, what would happen if Theresa May loses her local seat to the Lib Dems ?

 

[The perfect fumble]

do you just want to talk about me?

Why not? It's your favourite topic.