Jack the United fan
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I'm With Stupid
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You say that, but actually you'd think the opposite. With all the money in football, they should be able to pay the referees enough that they can't be corrupted. But then it depends who's doing the corrupting. It might be the same people who are paying them. The average Premier League referee is on £70k a year (£38k to £45k a year, plus appearance fees for every match), but assistants only get £475 per match. A top level referee is unlikely to risk a good job like that plus potentially going to prison. A linesman is far more likely to.Of course this has been going on. All the money that goes around in football it's only logical their would be a few bent officials who would want a bigger slice of the pie.
We saw in World Cup 2002 a blatant situation where easily controllable referees had been selected by FIFA and told to favour the host nation.
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You say that, but actually you'd think the opposite. With all the money in football, they should be able to pay the referees enough that they can't be corrupted. But then it depends who's doing the corrupting. It might be the same people who are paying them. The average Premier League referee is on £70k a year (£38k to £45k a year, plus appearance fees for every match), but assistants only get £475 per match. A top level referee is unlikely to risk a good job like that plus potentially going to prison. A linesman is far more likely to.
We saw in World Cup 2002 a blatant situation where easily controllable referees had been selected by FIFA and told to favour the host nation.
Well, you've implied it but I'll come out and say it... the pressure to influence match officials is far more likely to come from their own corrupt governing body who want to see the old elite remain at the top of their respective leagues.
Prestwich_Blue
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iI've said this before but there will be two potential sources of pressure. One from criminal/betting syndicates, partcicularly in the Far East where hundreds of millions of pounds can be staked on a single round of PL games in unlicensed and unregulated markets. The other will come from domestic commercial interests including the PL and Sky. The first "top four" in 1993, besides the rags, included Norwich, Villa & Blackburn. With the greatest respect to those three clubs, the world isn't going to come to a grinding halt to watch Norwich v Villa on Ford Super Sunday and nor are the domestic and foreign TV companies going to spend billions for that sort of fare either.
I don't think there can be much doubt that the rags exploited their popularity to ensure they got favourable treatment from the TV companies and officials.
I don't think there can be much doubt that the rags exploited their popularity to ensure they got favourable treatment from the TV companies and officials.
Matty
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iI've said this before but there will be two potential sources of pressure. One from criminal/betting syndicates, partcicularly in the Far East where hundreds of millions of pounds can be staked on a single round of PL games in unlicensed and unregulated markets. The other will come from domestic commercial interests including the PL and Sky. The first "top four" in 1993, besides the rags, included Norwich, Villa & Blackburn. With the greatest respect to those three clubs, the world isn't going to come to a grinding halt to watch Norwich v Villa on Ford Super Sunday and nor are the domestic and foreign TV companies going to spend billions for that sort of fare either.
I don't think there can be much doubt that the rags exploited their popularity to ensure they got favourable treatment from the TV companies and officials.
It is clearly in the Premier League's own interests to have the biggest, most popular, well supported sides at the top of the league. Can you imagine the collective apathy around the World if Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and United were all languishing in mid-table and the title/Champion's League battle was being fought out between Everton Newcastle, Villa and Swansea? Successful, well supported sides equates to more interest in "the product" and, therefore, greater potential to attract more money. Is it any wonder then that the bigger sides get more than their fair share of decisions? It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to hear that, on occasion, it has been suggested to officials that certain results would be more "beneficial".
Bent officials coming to light on derby week.
Cant imagine why, but think our management are finally learning how to play the media game.
In resent years some of the worst officiating seen in the premier league history has been recorded at the Manchester derby.
This has historically favored the Scum.
Much more difficult when the worlds eye's are upon you.
But with Clatenburg you never know
Cant imagine why, but think our management are finally learning how to play the media game.
In resent years some of the worst officiating seen in the premier league history has been recorded at the Manchester derby.
This has historically favored the Scum.
Much more difficult when the worlds eye's are upon you.
But with Clatenburg you never know
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Twattenberg had a "business relationship" with Toxic when he was in charge of us.Bent officials coming to light on derby week.
Cant imagine why, but think our management are finally learning how to play the media game.
In resent years some of the worst officiating seen in the premier league history has been recorded at the Manchester derby.
This has historically favored the Scum.
Much more difficult when the worlds eye's are upon you.
But with Clatenburg you never know
It is clearly in the Premier League's own interests to have the biggest, most popular, well supported sides at the top of the league. Can you imagine the collective apathy around the World if Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and United were all languishing in mid-table and the title/Champion's League battle was being fought out between Everton Newcastle, Villa and Swansea? Successful, well supported sides equates to more interest in "the product" and, therefore, greater potential to attract more money. Is it any wonder then that the bigger sides get more than their fair share of decisions? It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to hear that, on occasion, it has been suggested to officials that certain results would be more "beneficial".
Well then we'll be getting the rub of the green these days. In the PL we are now considered one of the big boys, by most fans, by TV companies and certainly by the league. You think Scudmore cares if you are 'new money.'
It's only UEFA with their elitism and power of the G14 cartel that influence the people at the top to keep the old guard IN power. I understand your analogy in terms of Newcastle and Villa but if they were at the top of the league it would no doubt be because of a benefactor, and no doubt they'd be following a similar route to the one we went on. Now they might not pull the crowds straight away but after a few years and having the best players, there's no doubt the foreign channels would still be interested. Of course if it's United or Arsenal with the best players then I get it's a bigger draw...
Zuriblue
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As it's only a lino, there must be a chance that it'll be swept under the carpet.
At least until there's a new broom at UEFA.
A lino did fuck us over a few weks back.
Does this surprise anyone? A well-known football reporter at a respected English newspaper was reportedly given clear evidence of match-fixing in the PL and refused to print it. Now it's starting to come out.
Involving? I could guess..