To those that are criticising his distribution, have you ever compare him to other Prem keepers? It's interesting looking at the passing stats, as Joe is really no worse than anyone else in the league especially when you consider he lacks a target man to aim for on kick outs.
I agree with the point about our players moving into space to give him decent options, it's a two way thing. Same thing applies on corners, the kick taker always gets the criticism which ignores the lack of movement in the box and it also happens with wide players getting criticism for delivery when they've no one to deliver to in the box.
You've not watched him as closely as you should then. Watch these highlights of him. Time and time again he gets the ball and dwells on it too long as England defenders who were once in space get closed down. He also picks the poor option when passing which then puts his defence under pressure - he does this by either not putting enough pace on the ball or choosing to pass to the man with no subsequent option. You can blame the movement of the England midfield for this to some extent, but you can see quite clearly from this video how many times Hart keeps the ball for too long whilst Cahill in particular is sprinting wide to pick the ball up to feet (and he is in enough space to turn and play it out). England tactically had been instructed to do that and pass it out from the back - that was clear. Especially with Stones on the pitch who is excellent on the ball and at passing. Cahill is good enough as well to pass it forwards so I disagree with you saying Rose is the only one good enough in possession, in fact he's probably the worst of the back 4 England picked.
If you still sympathise with Hart and blame others, watch Valdes or Neuer and see how good they are with the ball, and how often they pass to a player under far more pressure than the England defence were on Sunday. They play accurate and well weighted passes and then offer themselves for the return ball if required. Hart isn't comfortable doing that and it shows. Some people might not like to hear it, but he's in trouble now Pep's come to the club unless we see an improvement with his footballing skills.
Have you got the stats for the top 6 keepers???
The problem is the game is evolving and joe isn't moving with it (at the moment), his distribution may not be that bad in comparable terms, however, in the system Pep will insist on, it will be exposed 10 fold unless he books his ideas up.... I also agree with Neville on this, it's more down to balls and not panicking!!!
Have you got the stats for the top 6 keepers???
The problem is the game is evolving and joe isn't moving with it (at the moment), his distribution may not be that bad in comparable terms, however, in the system Pep will insist on, it will be exposed 10 fold unless he books his ideas up.... I also agree with Neville on this, it's more down to balls and not panicking!!!
I agree as well - it's composure on the ball he lacks more than anything. Neuer is outrageously composed on the ball and I think his passing stats are around the 80% mark just to throw in Pep's level of expectation. You'd expect Joe to have a completion rate above 50% as most passes will be 5 yards to feet, it's the passes when under pressure he struggles with - in professional football you're likely to have someone closing you down and you've got to be confident to play a pass to feet, that's where he struggles and instead he dwells on the ball before launching it long, which doesn't work with City considering the height of our "target man".
You think those players wouldn't have been closed down by the time the ball got to them? Wow! You think England defenders are far far better than they are. Also note the total lack of movement by other England players when a defender is given the ball.
Oranges being compared with Apples again.
Have a look at how much Neuer's passing % improved under Pep.
I'm not saying Hart will make the same improvement but for me this shows how the system used also plays a part in how good the keeper's passing is
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/13754/History/Manuel-Neuer
I had a quick look at Whoscored for passing accuracy in PL:
Hart 52.6%
De Gea 56.9%
Cech 59%
Courtois 48.2%
Lloris 63.8%
I agree as well - it's composure on the ball he lacks more than anything. Neuer is outrageously composed on the ball and I think his passing stats are around the 80% mark just to throw in Pep's level of expectation. You'd expect Joe to have a completion rate above 50% as most passes will be 5 yards to feet, it's the passes when under pressure he struggles with - in professional football you're likely to have someone closing you down and you've got to be confident to play a pass to feet, that's where he struggles and instead he dwells on the ball before launching it long, which doesn't work with City considering the height of our "target man".