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Re: City vs Villa( League Cup)Post match Discussion Thread Bobbins.... No passion, no organisation and no leadership, worrying yes, desperate not at all, something seems amiss though this season and it need fixing fast before it becomes a habit .. mcfc ok

So what does everyone make of them Beatles ?? I hear it's the new sound among the kids

How can i put this ?? ...bring a trumpet and I will put a shit in it ....

By what kind or margins does the NIST models not match the data ? And also what data are you comparing the models? video footage ? If so how are you accounting for the numbers of variables present when using video footage? Also even if NIST are proved to have made mistakes in what way does that...

I hear what you are saying but its not true to say that it would be impossible for them to buckle, unlikely but not impossible, the NIST breakdown shows thus Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall). Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds)...

Was this period of freefall not put down to the theory that the support columns had buckled to the point they no longer provided the support for the structure above ?

*EDIT* sorry Skashion just seen your reply to SWP

NIST have admitted freefall (40% of the overall collapse time i think) but I don't see how this radically changes the rest of the explanation, what are your thoughts ?

Look up project "Amerithrax" that was the FBI code name for the investigation into the anthrax attacks, as i recall they traced it to a Doctor whose name escapes me, think he committed suicide before being charged

Problem is that just because you don't know why something is the way it is or happens the way it does, it does not mean that it isn't that way, I don't fully understand how my laptop works but I don't refuse to believe it to be witchcraft because of my lack of understanding.

On one side you say if the US government did it they would go to every length to cover every detail, then in the same breath say they seem to be making it up as they go along ?? surely those two ideas conflict ? also with regards to your closing sentence about believing others i quote David...

The problem here is that you seem to be treating the two explanations as if they are both equally probable when they are not, one of them has thousands of hours of independent peer reviewed evidence, admission and testimony, the other has no real evidence and is focused more on poking holes in...

Even so how long do you think it would take to rig two buildings that size with explosives for a controlled demolition ??

If you read it through it actually he is saying that the explosives were fitted AFTER the planes hit the towers !!! unbelievable Jeff...

Sorry but your understanding is incorrect.

Without wishing to be rude what is it exactly you believe to be the significance of the freefall event at WTC 7 ?

no doubt the war on Iraq was built on some very shaky ground both moralistic and evidential. However all that is evidence of (if it is at all) is that governments and people alike are opportunists, it does not mean that they orchestrated 911 as an event in itself. To engineer something on the...

In this case though, the US government are confirmed liars which renders any evidence they offer as suspicious. Don't get me wrong, in general, I'm not an unbelieving or cold person, I'm more than happy to take people on face value but if I know someone is a liar then it's only natural I'll...

It does not really come down to that though does it? Thinking differently is good and to be encouraged but it has to be based within a definable reality, the best method we have for defining our reality is reasoning based on demonstrable evidence, if we choose to disagree with that evidence we...

by the same token how can you assert data that has not been released falsifies the outcome so as not to be trusted ? I'm not saying it should not be made available but until such time as it is speculation either way is credible surely ?