Are City bad at selling?

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

We are shite at selling because we only ever sell players we don't want.

Our buying and overspending on average players is the bigger problem for me and leads to the above.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

For me you can't look at the selling side of things in isolation. It's also related to the fact we often initially overpaid for some players and also the massive wages they're on.

Also, i think it's unfair to judge the fees we're generating for players we obviously need to offload with the fees other clubs are getting for players who they don't want to offload. It's a nice problem to have. We're pretty lucky that the likes of Kompany, Zabaleta, Aguero, Silva and Toure (though he had a good try) haven't forced moves away. We've held onto our best players when they've been at their peak, something which other clubs have struggled to do. It's pretty impressive really. Our selling record could have been better but it would have meant losing some of our best players. Everyone cites Daniel Levy as some kind of genius but let's see how much he'd have got for Javi Garcia and Jack Rodwell! Paulinho bought for £17m and sold for £9.9m. Soldado, bought for £26m and sold for £10m. The root cause of bad selling is often bad buying.

Absolutely, but other top clubs seem to do a far better job of getting money for players they don't want. Look at Chelsea. When they sold Mata, Luiz, Oscar, De Bruyne, Schurrle, Ramires and Lukaku, they were all surplus to requirements, and yet they made profits on every one of them. Yes, they've took the odd hit on the likes of Torres, Felipe Luiz and Cuadrado, but it's nowhere near in the same league. What it noticeable about all of these players is that they are usually sold while they've still got a good chunk of their career ahead of them, rather than being sold in their late 20s when no-one's going to pay the big money that they were signed for unless they're world class (in which case, you wouldn't be selling them). Perhaps we're not quick enough to offload players that aren't doing the business? And too willing to put players on loan without a commitment to buy? And obviously a lot of it comes down to the price we paid to get the player in in the first place. We were never going to get our money back for Mangala even though he's a decent age, but there's no reason we shouldn't be getting £20m.

 

[shemnel]

we're a buying club because our desired rate of improvement (since takeover) and our actual rate of improvement (since takeover) far outstrip the ability of the academy to supplement the squad.

Therefore we buy big and sell small. we are also a natural target for inflated transfer fees. Any player who is worth anything tends to stay because we still require them. We haven't quite reached the position where we flog a top star to buy another (though it could be this summer or next).

 

[salfordbluetrue]

our selling is awful but it is based on
the way we buy Walker, would totty sell for 20 million down and 10 for the next 3 years, probably not as that would mean a good buy or a bad sale
the way we pay wages, Hart if city`s players were on a higher bonus lower basic joe would be chasing a club not city trying to find him one, and we would get 20 million
the need for experience Nolito it does not matter now good he is we were never going to get much when we came to sell
winning , when you win players fight to get to your club and when you sell their price goes up as they are winners and everyone wants a winner
the way we sell Mangala, 10 million down 2 million a year for 5 years and a 30% sell on would this lad still be here? we have to use all forms of buying and selling

 

[Hoghead]

Bad at selling tickets, bad at selling chips, lots of things we're bad at, even players.

 

[sir baconface]

You tried hard to use impressive grammar but tripped over your shoe-laces. Sorry to be anal.

Selling isn't done in isolation. There are three principal factors: (a) buying well, (b) nurturing the "product", and (c) selling skills.

 

[jimharri]

Do bears shit in the woods?
Is water wet?
Is the pope a catholic?

 

[franksinatra]

You stole my post, lol.

Well, if you're bad at buying, this (bad selling) is a logical consequence. Pretty much deterministic...

Not always the case though. Even players like Tevez/Dzeko we recouped fees not to disimilar to the fee for the likes of Patrick Roberts. But yes its a logical consequence.

 

[SWP's back]

We could be excellent at selling if we had to sell players we wanted to keep.

Spurs get good prices only for those players they'd rather not sell. As such it's a sellers market on those players.

We'd have made a fortune selling Silva, Aguero, Kompany et al at their peak.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

We've had more than our fair share of being utterly wank at buying, so that doesn't help us when it comes to selling those players.

If we were better at buying we wouldn't have to sell so much deadwood on crazy wages.