Bernardo penalty debate - no case to answer.

[Blue Llama]

Until key incidents are reviewed during the match players will continue to exagerate the fouls to reinforce the claim for a pen. Too often Sterling and Kun have stayed on their feet eventually lost position or balance but stayed upright and got nothing. In the Napoli game their back tried to wrestle Sane to stop him getting past not once but twice in the first 15 minutes. Sane remained on his feet but lost pace and time that helped Napoli players to get back in position to defend his cross. No foul given no yellow card to the Napoli back. First time a City player pulled a Napoli shirt their player went down. Result a free kick and a yellow card. Refs need to penalise the offence not what happens in the following seconds and too many need to be fitter to keep up with modern play.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

How is it decided what incidents are referred to the panel?
Are they independent and watch every game back and decide or is some faceless person choosing what they look at?

 

[Rolee]

How is it decided what incidents are referred to the panel?
Are they independent and watch every game back and decide or is some faceless person choosing what they look at?

https://www.premierleague.com/news/444152

Simulation suspensions
Players who dive or feign injury could face a two-match suspension starting from this season.

Footage from the weekend's fixtures will be reviewed each Monday and any player found guilty of simulation will be banned.

The three-man panel will consist of one former match official, a former manager and an ex-player.

The Football Association will only be able to impose the ban if the panel's decision is a unanimous one.

If a player is found guilty of deceiving an official or admits to the charge, the yellow or red card given to the opposing player can be rescinded.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

How is it decided what incidents are referred to the panel?
Are they independent and watch every game back and decide or is some faceless person choosing what they look at?

http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/aug/04/fa-confirm-pool-for-successful-deception-offences-040817

FA review and decide what to pass to their panel, as far as I can tell.
Only for penalties, a red card, or one of two yellows.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Pope rushes out makes contact and forces Bernardo's ankle into eversion/pronation, we're lucky he's not injured. At worst he exaggerates his fall but it was still a penalty and we've seen what happens if you're honest and try to stay on your feet; Sterling pen not given vs Spurs last season, Jay Rodriguez not given a pen vs Arsenal the other week etc...

I was thinking this with Kane's goal yesterday. He was fouled and still managed to score. But I guarantee that if he'd stayed on his feet and missed, the referee wouldn't have brought it back for a penalty. Players are told to go down because they won't get a penalty if they don't, even if they deserve one. So that creates this massive grey area where pretty much everyone now goes down easily. But there are also so many cases where the player is falling over long before the contact and it's justified because "there's contact." Nowhere in the rules is the word "contact" mentioned. The rules say that a player has to be tripped.

 

[Dave S]

Kane and Alli are the most blatant and frequent divers in the Premier League. Along with Herrera.

And not forgetting Hazard of course.

 

[CityInWashingtonState]

Can't see a thread but led by talkragshite the FA are looking at it later today.

90% of players spoken to and that includes talkragshite patsies agree it was a pen.

The agenda will raise its head if he gets banned, his foot was under the keepers knee but apparently he fell too well.

Why on earth, having seen the replay, and correctly drawing the conclusion that you've drawn, would you expect - or indeed intertain the possibility of - a ban?

 

[jonmcity]

Pure deflection away from the rag result,it was a pen, the end

This, lets get a negative City story out and this S***t is all they could come up with.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Why on earth, having seen the replay, and correctly drawing the conclusion that you've drawn, would you expect - or indeed intertain the possibility of - a ban?

I don't think anyone does. It's being spun to allow it to be phrased as "is a City player a diving cheating bastard?". Repeat a thousand times for maximum soaking into the subconscious.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Why on earth, having seen the replay, and correctly drawing the conclusion that you've drawn, would you expect - or indeed intertain the possibility of - a ban?

It's England mate, trust nobody to be honest around the FA or handpicked committee.