Bundesliga review part 2. the new one :)

[bayern-flo2]

Yo since we got alot of Germans on the forums i would like to ask some quick questions since im going there in like 6 hours.

First. Is Lufthansa any good?
2nd. Im going to Hamburg, Stuttgart, Munich, Cologne, And Berlin we thought that should give us the gist of the country is there anywhere else am i missing or must see.
3rd. Im big into WW2 stuff other than Berlin (with the wall and checkpoint charlie) i found it hard to find any proper Museum about it is there any?
4. Is there anything i need to worry about like tips ect.


thanks

1: It's ok ;-)
2: Regensburg is a nice little town with a lot of old stuff as no bomb was dropped on the inner city in WW2. In the middle age Regensburg was a very important city like Cologne.
3: In Bavaria I know
- Nuremberg <a class="postlink" href="http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documentation-centre/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documen ... index.html</a>
- Munich/Dachau <a class="postlink" href="http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html</a>
- Berchtesgaden/Obersalzberg/Eagles nest <a class="postlink" href="http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1</a>
(A wonderful area but it's not easy to get there without your own car; Salzburg is the nearest city; but maybe a guided tour from Munich. e.g. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/berchtesgaden-eagles-nest-t1793/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/ ... est-t1793/</a>

 

[Ruhr]

Re: Bundesliga review

Yo since we got alot of Germans on the forums i would like to ask some quick questions since im going there in like 6 hours.

First. Is Lufthansa any good?
2nd. Im going to Hamburg, Stuttgart, Munich, Cologne, And Berlin we thought that should give us the gist of the country is there anywhere else am i missing or must see.
3rd. Im big into WW2 stuff other than Berlin (with the wall and checkpoint charlie) i found it hard to find any proper Museum about it is there any?
4. Is there anything i need to worry about like tips ect.


thanks

1: It's ok ;-)
2: Regensburg is a nice little town with a lot of old stuff as no bomb was dropped on the inner city in WW2. In the middle age Regensburg was a very important city like Cologne.
3: In Bavaria I know
- Nuremberg <a class="postlink" href="http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documentation-centre/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documen ... index.html</a>
- Munich/Dachau <a class="postlink" href="http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html</a>
- Berchtesgaden/Obersalzberg/Eagles nest <a class="postlink" href="http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1</a>
(A wonderful area but it's not easy to get there without your own car; Salzburg is the nearest city; but maybe a guided tour from Munich. e.g. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/berchtesgaden-eagles-nest-t1793/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/ ... est-t1793/</a>

oh, well yes, about that nazi stuff and the war crimes you will find endlessly, especially in Berlin. (topography of terror,Holocaust memorial, Bendler Block), Thought, he was more interested in the war itself

 

[AntiUnited]

Re: Bundesliga review

Yo since we got alot of Germans on the forums i would like to ask some quick questions since im going there in like 6 hours.

First. Is Lufthansa any good?
2nd. Im going to Hamburg, Stuttgart, Munich, Cologne, And Berlin we thought that should give us the gist of the country is there anywhere else am i missing or must see.
3rd. Im big into WW2 stuff other than Berlin (with the wall and checkpoint charlie) i found it hard to find any proper Museum about it is there any?
4. Is there anything i need to worry about like tips ect.


thanks

1: It's ok ;-)
2: Regensburg is a nice little town with a lot of old stuff as no bomb was dropped on the inner city in WW2. In the middle age Regensburg was a very important city like Cologne.
3: In Bavaria I know
- Nuremberg <a class="postlink" href="http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documentation-centre/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documen ... index.html</a>
- Munich/Dachau <a class="postlink" href="http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html</a>
- Berchtesgaden/Obersalzberg/Eagles nest <a class="postlink" href="http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1</a>
(A wonderful area but it's not easy to get there without your own car; Salzburg is the nearest city; but maybe a guided tour from Munich. e.g. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/berchtesgaden-eagles-nest-t1793/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/ ... est-t1793/</a>

oh, well yes, about that nazi stuff and the war crimes you will find endlessly, especially in Berlin. (topography of terror,Holocaust memorial, Bendler Block), Thought, he was more interested in the war itself

Ye like panzers , luggars, planes shit like that.

 

[Ruhr]

Re: Bundesliga review

1: It's ok ;-)
2: Regensburg is a nice little town with a lot of old stuff as no bomb was dropped on the inner city in WW2. In the middle age Regensburg was a very important city like Cologne.
3: In Bavaria I know
- Nuremberg <a class="postlink" href="http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documentation-centre/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/documen ... index.html</a>
- Munich/Dachau <a class="postlink" href="http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/index-e.html</a>
- Berchtesgaden/Obersalzberg/Eagles nest <a class="postlink" href="http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.obersalzberg.de/obersalzberg-home.html?&L=1</a>
(A wonderful area but it's not easy to get there without your own car; Salzburg is the nearest city; but maybe a guided tour from Munich. e.g. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/berchtesgaden-eagles-nest-t1793/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.getyourguide.com/munich-l26/ ... est-t1793/</a>

oh, well yes, about that nazi stuff and the war crimes you will find endlessly, especially in Berlin. (topography of terror,Holocaust memorial, Bendler Block), Thought, he was more interested in the war itself

Ye like panzers , luggars, planes shit like that.

then you should make the 90 minutes trip from Berlin to Dresden

What has that to do with Bundesliga review i don´t know :)

 

[bayern-flo2]

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B - Well you may be surprised here but I voted for the old system, ie first come first serve.
I have no problem moving to another block if I arrive late, we did that at most games in the Olympiastadion where, if you didn't arrive early, it was impossible to get into the central blocks until half time.

C - I have to work at least two weekends a month but I get to Munich as often as I can, about half the home games and as many away games as I can manage.
I can't get to the Gladbach game as although I have the weekend off I'm working Friday til six and it's a Friday evening game, the second home game I'm working (Nürnberg) but I'll be at the third game (Hannover), I've already got the train tickets.
Of course when I lived in Landshut I never missed a home game but these days with work and the ridiculous price of train tickets that is unfortunately no longer possible.

B: I'm not surprised ;-)
As you said, the system at the Olympic stadium was absolutely ok and simple.<br /><br />-- Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:01 pm --<br /><br />

What has that to do with Bundesliga review i don´t know :)

Maybe ze german tanks on ze pitch
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[bayern-flo2]

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Thought, he was more interested in the war itself

Ahh ok.

 

[bayern blade]

Re: Bundesliga review

bayern-flo2 wrote:(@Ruhr: I think your club listened to the supporters)


with the social situation around Gelsenkirchen there was no other way than to have a large standing section at the new stadium. At the time the Arena auf Schalke was built, the club had still a feeling, who had supported it through the hard years of Bundesliga 2. To be honest, that feeling is clearly vanishing in the last years.

Ever since Germany had the questionable honour to host the 2006 World Cup football in this country has changed and its definitely not a change into the right direction.

Football became a hipster thing and all of a sudden everyone and his mother seems to support a football club or the national team.

And this leads to football becoming a business thing more than anything else. Back in the day a club simply couldnt piss off the majority of its customers because the next match day the ground would have been half empty.

These days for every fan who voices his concerns and is fed up with something at his club there are two or more willing (and most important silent) customers ready to take over his season ticket.

Especially at clubs like Bayern the "if you dont play according to our rules, feel free to fuck off" mentality is obvious. And I doubt that someone from the Bayern board gives a shit about the atmosphere at games as long as there are enough customers willing to buy tickets and merchandising.

Lets face the truth..the majority of todays football fans is a brainless mass who happily consumes for the sake of consuming.

Everytime I see a female fan run around with "official club merchandise" in pink (because its girly and will sell better) makes me want to puke up my guts. If you go to a football match wear your fucking club colours at least ffs!!

But those kind of people just won´t get it...Back when Werder Bremen came up with kits containing the colour orange there was a huge protest in their fanscene as the traditional colours are green and white. And still you see way too many of those shirts on display, bought by brainless consumers who happily will wave sponsored plastic flags or clap those annoying sponsored clapper things which seem to become the new fashion thing all over the Bundesliga.

And you certainly dont have to be an Ultra to be worried about this trend...

Unfortunately though the clubs have to put the majority first. Otherwise it would be like having an election and letting the party that got 15% of the votes rule rather than the party that got 65%. That's the way of the world.

 

[bayern blade]

Re: Bundesliga review

Yo since we got alot of Germans on the forums i would like to ask some quick questions since im going there in like 6 hours.

First. Is Lufthansa any good?
2nd. Im going to Hamburg, Stuttgart, Munich, Cologne, And Berlin we thought that should give us the gist of the country is there anywhere else am i missing or must see.
3rd. Im big into WW2 stuff other than Berlin (with the wall and checkpoint charlie) i found it hard to find any proper Museum about it is there any?
4. Is there anything i need to worry about like tips ect.


thanks

Now this I can help you with. I'm an amateur historian and the third Reich is my specialist area, let me know more specifically what you want to see and where you are going and I can give you plenty info.
Hamburg has plenty to see from the docks where Bismarck was built, the old U-boat pens, air raid bunkers, to the massive flak tower still standing right next to St. Pauli's stadium.
Berlin has plenty to see, the Red army war memorial, the sight of the old Reichs chancellery and Führer bunker, Flak towers etc and in the centre you will find plenty of evidence of the heavy fighting in May 1945, many walls are still scarred by shrapnel and bursts of MG fire.
Munich still has many many sights to see dating right back to the failed putsch of 1923 which it is easy to follow the trail of. Hitler's favourite cafe the Osteria Bavaria (now called Osteria Italiana) still exists although obviously they don't mention their infamous old regular guest !
The monuments to the martyrs of 1923 are still visible on Königsplatz and Party central HQ still stands as well, including Hitler's office. It is now a music school.

The Panzer museum at Munster <a class="postlink" href="http://www.panzermuseum-munster.de" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.panzermuseum-munster.de</a> is very good.
There are several good aircraft museums.

 

[Ruhr]

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before this thread is completely thrown back into 1945, here some news from the german cup


Werder Bremen has gone out 1-3 in extra time at 3rd league 1 FC Saarbrücken. Werder is going to have some troubles this season, i believe.
Even bigger surprise:
SV Darmstadt (League 3) - Borussia Mönchengladbach 5-4 on penalties
Also Eintracht Braunschweig is out, 2-1 defeat at Arminia Bielefeld (Bundesliga 2)

all other Bundesliga clubs are through so far (Bayern and Schalke in action tomorrow)

Borussia Dortmund had an easy 3-0 win at 4th division SV Wilhelmshaven. There is a german word for a striker who misses best chances: "Chancentod" (chances´death). I think in Aubameyang they signed one.

 

[Maldeika]

Re: Bundesliga review

before this thread is completely thrown back into 1945, here some news from the german cup


Werder Bremen has gone out 1-3 in extra time at 3rd league 1 FC Saarbrücken. Werder is going to have some troubles this season, i believe.
Even bigger surprise:
SV Darmstadt (League 3) - Borussia Mönchengladbach 5-4 on penalties
Also Eintracht Braunschweig is out, 2-1 defeat at Arminia Bielefeld (Bundesliga 2)

all other Bundesliga clubs are through so far (Bayern and Schalke in action tomorrow)

Borussia Dortmund had an easy 3-0 win at 4th division SV Wilhelmshaven. There is a german word for a striker who misses best chances: "Chancentod" (chances´death). I think in Aubameyang they signed one.

Dortmund's win was far from easy. They needed 71 minutes to score... Already smelled like that kind of sensation you like in the first Cup round.