Car killing in Chorlton.

[Raheem's On Fire]

Man charged with murder, and burglary. Excellent work by GMP
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-39752633

Do you think it will stick though? Hope so as Dave Ewing says, death during a burglary should have its own tariff

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Without knowing the evidence it is impossible to predict if it will stick
However it will have been reviewed by a serious case review lawyer prior to charge so it will have passed very the necessary threshold test
So quite possibly

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Do you think it will stick though? Hope so as Dave Ewing says, death during a burglary should have its own tariff

Stick? Hes been charged with murder, I cant think of a stickier thing

 

[Raheem's On Fire]

Stick? Hes been charged with murder, I cant think of a stickier thing

Charged yes, but what I'm saying is what is the likelihood of it being downgraded to manslaughter. Thought murder needs a motive and intent etc.

I'm no QC though hence my question bud

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Charged yes, but what I'm saying is what is the likelihood of it being downgraded to manslaughter. Thought murder needs a motive and intent etc.

Only an intent to cause really serious harm - and no motive required.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You can't remand someone if they haven't been charged. You can't charge unless you have so much evidence that they are basically fucked no matter what they do. This is down to the CPS. The CPS don't want to charge anyone who might get off with it at court as it affects their figures ffs. They want to achieve a very high conviction rate. Consequently, unless the shitbag is basically caught red handed, the CPS will say not enough evidence to charge and let them walk. CPS government Wankers.

That pesky thing called evidence is always such an inconvenience.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

I hope the fetid, rancid **** dies a wretched death.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Charged yes, but what I'm saying is what is the likelihood of it being downgraded to manslaughter. Thought murder needs a motive and intent etc.

I'm no QC though hence my question bud

If you intend to cause someone serious harm and they then die then a charge of murder is made out. Driving a heavy chunk of metal at someone at speed deliberately can only be an intent to cause serious harm, hence the charge.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If you intend to cause someone serious harm and they then die then a charge of murder is made out. Driving a heavy chunk of metal at someone at speed deliberately can only be an intent to cause serious harm, hence the charge.

More difficult to prove the material intent when someone's driving a car away from the scene of a burglary in a panic though, especially if there's an absence of surviving witnesses.

 

[andyhinch]

That pesky thing called evidence is always such an inconvenience.

Do they still bother about things like that ? Thought it went out with the 80's