Carragher & Neville Interview Premier League Referees

Neither can goal line technology, and most grass root games i've been involved in haven't even had linesman, should the game just stop at that level then?

They trot out this as a fucking cop out from introducing the tech to make the game fairer when in reality they just want to be able to manipulate results.

'They' - do they include the millions of old school die hard football fans ? My old man has been going West Ham since the 60's - he accepts goal line technology but says that should be the limit - do you see what the footballing governing bodies are up against. And that's before you factor in everybody will have a different opinion of how technology should be used and when. It's a absolute minefield that can not happen over night. I for one welcome the ref having sideline help from another official on a monitor through an earpiece. Mistakes will be made no matter what though.
 
'They' - do they include the millions of old school die hard football fans ? My old man has been going West Ham since the 60's - he accepts goal line technology but says that should be the limit - do you see what the footballing governing bodies are up against. And that's before you factor in everybody will have a different opinion of how technology should be used and when. It's a absolute minefield that can not happen over night. I for one welcome the ref having sideline help from another official on a monitor through an earpiece. Mistakes will be made no matter what though.



here`s an idea why dont we try and invent something that will stop most if not all bad decisions then use it.
 
Lets not forget that all this nauseating sky led our refs are great bollox is straight off the back of a game in which we got shafted yet again and very publicly we said enough is enough.

Its PiGMOL and the PL way with their buddies at Sky who have commercial interests way of telling us to get fucked.

Again, why can Taylor publicly say he got it wrong in a game between Burnley and Swansea when the policy is never to comment at all regardless yet not a peep when his fuck ups and or corruption isnt even whispered about in games with a much higher profile shall we say?
 
It was predictably shallow.

There were one or two interesting points - the refs meet up every 2 weeks for training and analysis.

Too much was the pundits running around and laughing about not being any good at reffing. There was an interesting bit when a couple of refs and half a dozen assistants were asked what they hated from pundits - being described as 'having bottled it' was unpopular, which seems reasonable from their point of view. Mullarkey also gave some insight into offside decision calling, some of which is clearly based on past experience.

The couple of insights just raised more questions - any sanction for bad days wasn't mentioned, although some want to get back on the horse, some are happy to go down a flight and get their mojo back.

What it wasn't was an investigation into what works/doesn't work in refereeing, which is unsurprising.
 
Again, why can Taylor publicly say he got it wrong in a game between Burnley and Swansea when the policy is never to comment at all regardless yet not a peep when his fuck ups and or corruption isnt even whispered about in games with a much higher profile shall we say?

Because they picked a black/white case with no interpretation needed. It was just wrong.

They did have Atkinson saying that 85-90% certainty isn't good enough for him to send someone off, and that yellows are used quickly to 'manage' situations. That just raises more questions about who would be managed, when does a law not get applied through management, etc.
 
Because they picked a black/white case with no interpretation needed. It was just wrong.

They did have Atkinson saying that 85-90% certainty isn't good enough for him to send someone off, and that yellows are used quickly to 'manage' situations. That just raises more questions about who would be managed, when does a law not get applied through management, etc.

Here in lies the self made problem. They interpret the laws of the game rather than apply them and they let themselves interpret them differently for certain sides, players and games.

They should sit down and say just apply the laws of the game regardless and see where it leads and my guess is it will lead to a hell of a lot of pressure off their backs and a better fairer game.

Its not about them, its about the game and a great ref is often an unnoticed one.
 
Here in lies the self made problem. They interpret the laws of the game rather than apply them and they let themselves interpret them differently for certain sides, players and games.

They should sit down and say just apply the laws of the game regardless and see where it leads and my guess is it will lead to a hell of a lot of pressure off their backs and a better fairer game.

Its not about them, its about the game and a great ref is often an unnoticed one.

Yes, it's the inconsistency that rankles, together with the unwillingness to correct errors postmatch. If they reviewed all the decisions, and applied suspensions to all red card offences, it would reduce it. As it is, you've got a chance of getting away with one, and bigger matches will probably have more 'management' and less 'laws'.
 
Cheap PR by the FA. When you see the likes of Chris Foy and Mike Riley in senior positions it tells you all you need to know about the state of refereeing at the top of the game.
And when you know that both were moved upstairs because of secret and very believable allegations about their conduct and probity as refs then it tells you even more.
 
Here in lies the self made problem. They interpret the laws of the game rather than apply them and they let themselves interpret them differently for certain sides, players and games. They should sit down and say just apply the laws of the game regardless and see where it leads and my guess is it will lead to a hell of a lot of pressure off their backs and a better fairer game.
Graham Poll's book is a revealing read as he openly said he would apply totally different criteria to particular players and games. So if he was reffing a team that had a player regarded as being troublesome, he'd often card them at the first opportunity to try to keep them in check. When you think back to Balotelli, how often was he treated differently to other players because of his reputation? Sometimes he deserved it but often he'd get two yellows that other players simply wouldn't have got and that just adds to his reputation. Same with Aguero & Sterling getting booked for diving so frequently. They're now seen as "divers" by refs despite the fact they clearly aren't.
 

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