Donald Trump wins U.S. Election.

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  1. The perfect fumble

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    You make me laugh, when Farage thought he'd lost the referendum, when his City chums told him he'd blown it in the early hours of that fateful summers day, he gave a rallying speech to his troops about the fight going on, lost the battle but not the war kinda bollocks. When he realised he'd won it he changed his tune "That's it, the people have spoken, no going back" and the remoaners were born.

    Democracies don't work the way you think they do, people are expected to respect the outcome of elections and referendums, but they are not forced to embrace them. If that referendum had returned capital punishment I would have respected the outcome but not embraced it, and I would have done everything permissible in a democracy to reverse it, including agitating for another referendum. If this country elects the Tories, I no more believe in Tory principles the day after the election than I did before.

    Trump is a divisive figure who won the electoral college vote but not the popular vote, if the USA were to use the popular vote method rather than the system they presently use Clinton would be President and Trump would be back on reality TV, but they don't so they have Trump and not Clinton because of electoral mechanics. Whatever one thinks of that system all the candidates fought their campaigns under it, they knew its strengths and weaknesses and so they must respect the outcome, but just as I no more wanted to leave the EU the day after the referendum than I did before, the majority of Americans who voted for Hilary Clinton and those that voted for minor candidates are no more Pro Trump now than they were before.

    Trump might consider his victory as some sort of triumph of the will, you might talk about the EU referendum as the people have spoken, which castes the referendum as some kind of Road to Damascus revelation, but you're kidding yourself, Trump and the Brexiters don't have the political capital they think they have and in a democracy there are ways of stopping you in your tracks, get too cocky (and Trump is very cocky) and he and your merry band of little englanders will soon find out there are checks and balances in a democracy and the people who are against you know how to use them.
     
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  2. Vic

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    Well, I'm terrified.

    If he was being blackmailed by Russia, why would he make friendship with Putin and a pro-Russia stance an election issue? You'd think that would make his election less likely. Get elected then turn out to be Russia's man - that makes sense. Unless of course Putin's aim is just to cause as much incompetence and chaos in the USA as possible.
     
  3. blueonblue

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    Ha ha ha, almost the perfect summation of a "Snowflake", suggestions of the other side being smarter and the obligatory little snide insult tacked on, you can almost hear the tearful little cry "Its not fair, I`m taking my ball home".

    It was you and your chums that did not have the political capital, the world does not revolve around your ideals and people who hold a different view have the majority, an there is a big difference between sticking to your ideals and being a whinging little toerag.
     
  4. blueinsa

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    In a thread thats about to get pulled.
    I stopped at "you make me laugh"

    Thanks fumble xxx
     
  5. argyle

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    They did a few times on their website and in their reporting.

    People might not like the BBC, CNN etc but it's incredible a soon to be President can be so thin skinned that he refuses to take questions from them.
     
  6. argyle

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    Not sure anyone is actually stopping us leaving the E.U.

    The courtcases are so the whole of parliament decide to enact leaving when they know the plans and that it won't screw over the rest of the country in favour of London, billionaires etc.

    As for Trump, no one is stopping him being President. However there are serious credible allegations of his and his back teams links to Russia, the hacking of the DNC and RNC, his business dealings there etc.

    If Obama was about to take office and he and his team had these links what do you think Fox News etc would do?
     
  7. blueonblue

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    Hardly "Thin skinned" if its after a concerted hatchet job going back a couple of years from CNN and others including the beeb, they made no attempt to hide the bias when they thought he had no chance so now they get their comeuppance.
     
  8. argyle

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    What hatchet job?

    CNN gave Trump more airtime than any other network. They also ran more airtime on the Clinton emails. They even regular paid Trumps team to be on their network which they didn't do for Clinton.

    One of the main myths over the last 15 years by Republicans is that there is this big liberal conspiracy which just isn't true. Even the supposed MSNBC has Joe Scarborough on their main show who is a huge Trump guy.

    Fox News ran dubious story after dubious story on Obama and Clinton but they always took questions from them.

    The person in the highest office needs to be above this.

    Instead Trump shot an imaginary handgun at them, said Buzzfeed will have consequences and announced CNN was fake news because he didn't like their questions. As I said, he's thin skinned.
     
  9. If things carry on like this Trump will be gone faster than fat Sam with England
     
  10. Gaudion M

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    Your proving to be a bit of a joke with this. The BBC is as bland as it gets with political coverage. If this stuff is out there - and there is masses of dirt on Trump out there - you can not expect journalists to ignore it. As for getting comeuppance! What does that even mean?
     

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