Fukushima - The cover-up, the lies, the facts & the figures

[-dabz-]

Right when Dabz is involved it has to be a conspiracy theory so my 1 question is

Where is buzzer1?

Have the Illuminati jailed him for tax evasion???

Where's the conspiracy?
If paying attention to whats going on in the world is a "conspiracy theory", Then Im guilty as charged. There IS an on going cover up over the Japan situation whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

But hey! If it isn't directly affecting you then who cares eh?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rSJoALFIE&feature=player_embedded#at=44[/youtube]

oooo thats a bit harsh. Not quite bulgarianpride i'll be a **** for the sake of it harsh but still harsh. How would you know if this affects me or not?? My cousin is living out that way so maybe it does affect me but hey you must of known that to make the comment you did

I posted a relevent video in response to the OP. Somehow you labelled it a conspiracy and me a "conspiracy theorist" so what gives mate?
I genuinely hope you cousin is alright, I really do.
This is serious shit and glib remarks dont help anything.
Peace be to you and yours fellow blue. :O)

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Where's the conspiracy?
If paying attention to whats going on in the world is a "conspiracy theory", Then Im guilty as charged. There IS an on going cover up over the Japan situation whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

But hey! If it isn't directly affecting you then who cares eh?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rSJoALFIE&feature=player_embedded#at=44[/youtube]

oooo thats a bit harsh. Not quite bulgarianpride i'll be a **** for the sake of it harsh but still harsh. How would you know if this affects me or not?? My cousin is living out that way so maybe it does affect me but hey you must of known that to make the comment you did

I posted a relevent video in response to the OP. Somehow you labelled it a conspiracy and me a "conspiracy theorist" so what gives mate?
I genuinely hope you cousin is alright, I really do.
This is serious shit and glib remarks dont help anything.
Peace be to you and yours fellow blue. :O)

Look i think you took me out of context first time around along with bulgarianpride it was a bit of a joke that really as we can see now hasn't worked out. The conspiracy theory bit is because although it may be factual is being kept under wraps which makes it a conspiracy right?

Oh and asking where buzzer1 is was an actual question as not seen him in a while

 

[pauldominic]

Nuclear power is one of the cleanest way to make electricity. As the technology progress, it will become safer and safer. The only thing that is cleaner and reliable is hydroelectricity. However not that many countries posses the amount of water pools required to sustain the electricity use.

I prefer nuclear power to burning coal. it is dangerous, but i assume a lot of safety procedures take place. I am not anywhere near an expert on nuclear power and the safety procedures to make a judgment.

Look at France for example. 75% of its electricity is produced from nuclear power, without it their economy is will die. How is their safety record?

At the end of the day, without sustainable electricity our lives will be pretty bad. So unless people posses the knowledge to solve the problem, we shouldn't be kicking one of the solutions under the bus.

I struggle to express in words how much the claim that 'nuclear power is clean' frustrates me, angers me even.

The industry obscures everything it does. We don't know the half of what it has managed to conceal.

Leaks, compromised containment facilities, controlled leaks into the environment in the event of overheating. The list is endless.

Sellafield have nuclear waste all over the site, casually strewn across temporary dumps, on site, and it has remained there for decades.

The Sellafield B30 site has been described as "the most hazardous place in Western Europe" http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/apr/19/sellafield-nuclear-plant-cumbria-hazards

Then there's Dounreay. A nuclear power plant on the very tip of the North of Scotland, decommissioned 17 years ago yet will cost our government £2.9 billion to entirely decommission and clean up the land and stretch of beach it poisoned. The land won't be safe to use as a brownfield site until the year 2336.

And this is just in the UK.

Since you mentioned France, I'll make you aware that they've been pumping water used to treat nuclear waste into the English Channel for years.

And this is without highlighting your Fukushimas and your Chernobyls.

Nuclear power plants leave a legacy, and it's rarely a 'clean' one.

Bulgarian Pride is correct.

Fact number 1 is that the radioactive half life of anything pumped into the channel can be measured in minutes, hours or days at the most.

Fact number 2 is that Sellafield B30 is the location for the tiny proportion of waste that has an extremely lengthy half life and the only option is long term storage.

You're correct about Dounreay as an R&D experiment in Fast Breeder Reactor that failed.

However to compare that with standard reactors is a mistake.

 

[-dabz-]

oooo thats a bit harsh. Not quite bulgarianpride i'll be a **** for the sake of it harsh but still harsh. How would you know if this affects me or not?? My cousin is living out that way so maybe it does affect me but hey you must of known that to make the comment you did

I posted a relevent video in response to the OP. Somehow you labelled it a conspiracy and me a "conspiracy theorist" so what gives mate?
I genuinely hope you cousin is alright, I really do.
This is serious shit and glib remarks dont help anything.
Peace be to you and yours fellow blue. :O)

Look i think you took me out of context first time around along with bulgarianpride it was a bit of a joke that really as we can see now hasn't worked out. The conspiracy theory bit is because although it may be factual is being kept under wraps which makes it a conspiracy right?

Oh and asking where buzzer1 is was an actual question as not seen him in a while

Fair enough, but mud sticks mate. The word "conspiracy theorist" has become a byword for some kind of idiot, do you see where Im going with this?
As for Buzzer, no idea mate, but I really hope he's alright. Whatever people think of him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't desrve some of the shit he gets on here.

 

[pauldominic]

I'm determined to learn more about fusion, any material you could share?

Not really anything in particular to recommend, the theory is quite simple and is easy to understand, as are its advantages. The hard part is the practicalities of 'putting the sun in a box' and also starting and maintaining a reaction that will produce more energy than it consumes. We can confidently expect this barrier to be broken at some point in the next ten to twenty years. The Q ratio (as it's called, a simple ratio of input/output energy) has to be significantly higher to commercialise it.

I agree.

The engineering challenge is very high indeed but not impossible.

Plasma will consume anything it comes into contact with but tokamak and stellarator technology is a possibility.

Lord what's happening to me? Agreement with Damocles, Skashion and Bulgarian pride. I need to lie down.

-- Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:42 pm --

I posted a relevent video in response to the OP. Somehow you labelled it a conspiracy and me a "conspiracy theorist" so what gives mate?
I genuinely hope you cousin is alright, I really do.
This is serious shit and glib remarks dont help anything.
Peace be to you and yours fellow blue. :O)

Look i think you took me out of context first time around along with bulgarianpride it was a bit of a joke that really as we can see now hasn't worked out. The conspiracy theory bit is because although it may be factual is being kept under wraps which makes it a conspiracy right?

Oh and asking where buzzer1 is was an actual question as not seen him in a while

Fair enough, but mud sticks mate. The word "conspiracy theorist" has become a byword for some kind of idiot, do you see where Im going with this?
As for Buzzer, no idea mate, but I really hope he's alright. Whatever people think of him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't desrve some of the shit he gets on here.

Let's have a group hug everyone. By far the best thread on off-topic in ages.

 

[-dabz-]

I'm determined to learn more about fusion, any material you could share?

Not really anything in particular to recommend, the theory is quite simple and is easy to understand, as are its advantages. The hard part is the practicalities of 'putting the sun in a box' and also starting and maintaining a reaction that will produce more energy than it consumes. We can confidently expect this barrier to be broken at some point in the next ten to twenty years. The Q ratio (as it's called, a simple ratio of input/output energy) has to be significantly higher to commercialise it.

I agree.

The engineering challenge is very high indeed but not impossible.

Plasma will consume anything it comes into contact with but tokamak and stellarator technology is a possibility.

Lord what's happening to me? Agreement with Damocles, Skashion and Bulgarian pride. I need to lie down.

-- Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:42 pm --

Look i think you took me out of context first time around along with bulgarianpride it was a bit of a joke that really as we can see now hasn't worked out. The conspiracy theory bit is because although it may be factual is being kept under wraps which makes it a conspiracy right?

Oh and asking where buzzer1 is was an actual question as not seen him in a while

Fair enough, but mud sticks mate. The word "conspiracy theorist" has become a byword for some kind of idiot, do you see where Im going with this?
As for Buzzer, no idea mate, but I really hope he's alright. Whatever people think of him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't desrve some of the shit he gets on here.

Let's have a group hug everyone. By far the best thread on off-topic in ages.

No. fuck off ;O)

 

[pauldominic]

Not really anything in particular to recommend, the theory is quite simple and is easy to understand, as are its advantages. The hard part is the practicalities of 'putting the sun in a box' and also starting and maintaining a reaction that will produce more energy than it consumes. We can confidently expect this barrier to be broken at some point in the next ten to twenty years. The Q ratio (as it's called, a simple ratio of input/output energy) has to be significantly higher to commercialise it.

I agree.

The engineering challenge is very high indeed but not impossible.

Plasma will consume anything it comes into contact with but tokamak and stellarator technology is a possibility.

Lord what's happening to me? Agreement with Damocles, Skashion and Bulgarian pride. I need to lie down.

-- Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:42 pm --

Fair enough, but mud sticks mate. The word "conspiracy theorist" has become a byword for some kind of idiot, do you see where Im going with this?
As for Buzzer, no idea mate, but I really hope he's alright. Whatever people think of him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't desrve some of the shit he gets on here.

Let's have a group hug everyone. By far the best thread on off-topic in ages.

No. fuck off ;O)

I'd have named you as a bluemoon enemy by now but I shall simply ruffle my feathers ;)

 

[-dabz-]

I agree.

The engineering challenge is very high indeed but not impossible.

Plasma will consume anything it comes into contact with but tokamak and stellarator technology is a possibility.

Lord what's happening to me? Agreement with Damocles, Skashion and Bulgarian pride. I need to lie down.

-- Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:42 pm --



Let's have a group hug everyone. By far the best thread on off-topic in ages.

No. fuck off ;O)

I'd have named you as a bluemoon enemy by now but I shall simply ruffle my feathers ;)

Liberace??? I thought you were dead? ;O)

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

I posted a relevent video in response to the OP. Somehow you labelled it a conspiracy and me a "conspiracy theorist" so what gives mate?
I genuinely hope you cousin is alright, I really do.
This is serious shit and glib remarks dont help anything.
Peace be to you and yours fellow blue. :O)

Look i think you took me out of context first time around along with bulgarianpride it was a bit of a joke that really as we can see now hasn't worked out. The conspiracy theory bit is because although it may be factual is being kept under wraps which makes it a conspiracy right?

Oh and asking where buzzer1 is was an actual question as not seen him in a while

Fair enough, but mud sticks mate. The word "conspiracy theorist" has become a byword for some kind of idiot, do you see where Im going with this?
As for Buzzer, no idea mate, but I really hope he's alright. Whatever people think of him, he's a genuinely nice bloke who doesn't desrve some of the shit he gets on here.

No i see where your going its like a byword for crazy, alot of them are though, lol

I work with someone that believes in all of it, and he puts some very good arguments together, i have looked myself lately but its hard to seperate the make believe from the people that have a point. I chatted with buzzer1 about this before and he agrees that too many people make shit up that isnt there. Like i say, it was never a dig anyway, everyone to there own and all that.

 

[BulgarianPride]

oooo thats a bit harsh. Not quite bulgarianpride i'll be a **** for the sake of it harsh but still harsh. How would you know if this affects me or not?? My cousin is living out that way so maybe it does affect me but hey you must of known that to make the comment you did

I posted a relevent video in response to the OP. Somehow you labelled it a conspiracy and me a "conspiracy theorist" so what gives mate?
I genuinely hope you cousin is alright, I really do.
This is serious shit and glib remarks dont help anything.
Peace be to you and yours fellow blue. :O)

Look i think you took me out of context first time around along with bulgarianpride it was a bit of a joke that really as we can see now hasn't worked out. The conspiracy theory bit is because although it may be factual is being kept under wraps which makes it a conspiracy right?

Oh and asking where buzzer1 is was an actual question as not seen him in a while

I am sorry mate. Glad to see you are feeling better.