General Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Damocles, 21 Jun 2017.

  1. Ancient Citizen

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    If it were left to Corbyn, there would be no armament sales, check out the markets for BAE's products. He's been talking
    about pacifism and disarmament for all of his political life, now suggesting that help and intervention is needed is crass point
    scoring with zero substance, the reality would certainly be as the poster states.
     
  2. vonkeynotvenky

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    Corbyn would make sure that he would only sell killing machines to those of a socialist persuasion therefore making those sales just and socially acceptable.
     
  3. Vic

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    Ah I see. But the defence industry gets lots of subsidy already and it's capital intensive so you don't get many jobs for the money.

    The trade unions at Lucas aerospace saw the future in the 70s and proposed diversification. Make stuff to save lives rather than take them.
    http://lucasplan.org.uk/story-of-the-lucas-plan/
     
  4. Ancient Citizen

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    So what is Jezza talking about then?
     
  5. inbetween

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    Subsidy that supports circa 100,000+ jobs in the UK, what is the problem again? Do our politicians in this country represent us or someone else? If the UK government supports BAE and that results in thousands of jobs in the UK then what is the problem?

    I thought you were all for more investment in the NHS but why aren't you for the government buying more planes or investing in Trident for example which would secure the livelihoods of over a hundred thousand people? This is also not to mention securing our forces with work, equipment and the ability to defend the nation too?
     
  6. Chippy_boy

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    Edited for accuracy.
     
  7. Vic

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    An excellent question.
    The all-party parliamentary group for the armed forces is funded almost entirely by big donations from the arms industry. Since 2015 this group of MPs has received £94,000 from arms firms including BAE Systems.
    It didn't work for the miners.
    What about the livelihoods (and lives) of people attacked with exported British arms? Hence the reference to the Lucas plan as to how to diversify the skills of defence workers away from death-dealing. I would also point out that for every one of the thousand workers at BAe losing their job, BAe has paid £300,000 in fines and settlements over bribery to secure defence contracts. But if you see Trident as a job-creation scheme, I doubt we'll find much common ground on this topic.
     
  8. Vic

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    Today's question. Why do the Tories want people to go into debt?

    "When you make a claim for benefits, you will usually have to wait 39 weeks before housing costs are paid. This is a change to the previous waiting period of 13 weeks and applies to claims made from 1 April 2016."
     
  9. Ifwecouldjust.......

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    In the current period of Austerity (we're all in this together) the current Tory Government are planning on spending £100 million on building a new yacht for the Queen (one of the richest women on the planet)

    YCMIU
     
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  10. MillionMilesAway

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    She's nowhere near the richest woman on the planet.
     

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