mad zab said:He seems to be a natural leader to me. I believe he is only 17 still and for me he seems to be on the right path to the first team. He was a bit fortunate last night, as he could easily have been sent off for that tackle. However, I was impressed that he controlled himself afterwards and didn't give the ref a reason to send him off.
twosips said:mad zab said:He seems to be a natural leader to me. I believe he is only 17 still and for me he seems to be on the right path to the first team. He was a bit fortunate last night, as he could easily have been sent off for that tackle. However, I was impressed that he controlled himself afterwards and didn't give the ref a reason to send him off.
He's 19 in November so well past seventeen. Still an exceptional talent though and still very young. He'll have no problems physically. He reads the game well, is a leader as you said and he can get forward and pass. To be honest, he's a fuck lot like Barry but more athletic... we would have fucked it up if he doesn't at very least make 40/50 appearances for us over the next 3 years.
Not having it that Fernando has any more natural potential than he does. Not saying Bryan will be a better player (i think Fernando has a lot more to come in the long run too) cos shit happens and that but i think he's at least got the same amount of potential.
mad zab said:twosips said:mad zab said:He seems to be a natural leader to me. I believe he is only 17 still and for me he seems to be on the right path to the first team. He was a bit fortunate last night, as he could easily have been sent off for that tackle. However, I was impressed that he controlled himself afterwards and didn't give the ref a reason to send him off.
He's 19 in November so well past seventeen. Still an exceptional talent though and still very young. He'll have no problems physically. He reads the game well, is a leader as you said and he can get forward and pass. To be honest, he's a fuck lot like Barry but more athletic... we would have fucked it up if he doesn't at very least make 40/50 appearances for us over the next 3 years.
Not having it that Fernando has any more natural potential than he does. Not saying Bryan will be a better player (i think Fernando has a lot more to come in the long run too) cos shit happens and that but i think he's at least got the same amount of potential.
Your right regarding his age. I agree that he has everything to be a first team player for us.
All these lads need are an opportunity. I know we want to win trophies each season. However, we need to ensure there is a clear pathway to the first team for these kids who have the raw ingredients to be top class players.
When you think that Pogba was playing at this level just 2 years ago, then you begin to realise how quickly players can grow when given the chance to play competitive football regularly.
Neville Kneville said:mad zab said:twosips said:He's 19 in November so well past seventeen. Still an exceptional talent though and still very young. He'll have no problems physically. He reads the game well, is a leader as you said and he can get forward and pass. To be honest, he's a fuck lot like Barry but more athletic... we would have fucked it up if he doesn't at very least make 40/50 appearances for us over the next 3 years.
Not having it that Fernando has any more natural potential than he does. Not saying Bryan will be a better player (i think Fernando has a lot more to come in the long run too) cos shit happens and that but i think he's at least got the same amount of potential.
Your right regarding his age. I agree that he has everything to be a first team player for us.
All these lads need are an opportunity. I know we want to win trophies each season. However, we need to ensure there is a clear pathway to the first team for these kids who have the raw ingredients to be top class players.
When you think that Pogba was playing at this level just 2 years ago, then you begin to realise how quickly players can grow when given the chance to play competitive football regularly.
Agree.
There is a balance to be struck, but creating an environment where the best kids get through to the first team, is just as important as winning trophies imo. No reason we can't do both, but we should not sacrifice one aim, to suit the other.
A balance between big signings & homegrown is the way to go.
.A. said:Even James Milner, who I have always had huge respect for, has as good joined Liverpool now, so why is he coming off the bench against West Brom when we're 3-0 up? Brandon has a better skillset to be an impact player anyway.
Short term patience with these kids in the team will lead to long term benefits. We have about 5 worthy players who have been carrying the rest of the mediocrity for a few years now; it's not as if we're gonna notice a huge gulf in class with the integration of these superb young talents.
M_Disco said:.A. said:Even James Milner, who I have always had huge respect for, has as good joined Liverpool now, so why is he coming off the bench against West Brom when we're 3-0 up? Brandon has a better skillset to be an impact player anyway.
Short term patience with these kids in the team will lead to long term benefits. We have about 5 worthy players who have been carrying the rest of the mediocrity for a few years now; it's not as if we're gonna notice a huge gulf in class with the integration of these superb young talents.
The Lampard substitution against Newcastle will always baffle/annoy me. 5-0 up at home and we're bringing on a 36 year old loanee who's soon to leave the club anyway?! It would have been absolutely perfect for one of the youngsters to have come on and played for 20 minutes (not that we had one on the bench mind)