Morgan Schneiderlin

[Dax777]

I must be the only person that doesn't want Schneiderlin imo not good enough and I've seen him plenty of times.

Add me to the list. Not that he isn't good enough. Just not the type of player we should be looking for.

 

[Dax777]

City have to think twice now. If Dyke's proposals go through, neither of these will count as homegrown from 2016 and then you have to ask, is Alex Song or even Schneiderlin (depending on what alternatives are available) worth a spot in the 25 if they take 1 of the 13 foreign spots allowed. The 17 spots right now are like gold dust, imagine how selective we'll have to be if it drops to 13 as we'll be padding our squad with English mediocrity.

It'll never happen, it would ruin every chance in Europe for English teams, it would be a selfdestruction plan from Dyke.

Not really, when you consider United were perennially more successful in Europe with a core of British players than we have been with our alleged superior imports. When Chelsea won the CL in 2012 they had 4 British starters in the final, which would have been 5 had Terry not been suspended.

Aaron Ramsey has scored more Champions League goals for Arsenal than Toure has for us, while Bale and Rooney have both scored goals in CL finals in the past 5 years. Our entire club is stuck at second base; if it hadn't been for our English goalkeeper we would have been absolutely destroyed by a number of our European opponents in the past few years.

What the ruling would do is ensure more British players are granted the vital experience that the likes of Scholes, Bale and Rooney were all given that allowed them to become top level footballers.

Schneiderlin himself has had his game forged by English football, and has improved markedly with Premier League experience; joining a club like us would be the next natural step to see him become an elite level footballer. Dyke's vision is to see more domestic kids to get that kind of exposure early enough to gradually become top class players; Barry and Lescott were great for us in the league, but ultimately fell a bit short in Europe because they arrived at the top level too late. If we brought in the likes of Sterling, Barkley, Stones and Hughes and were patient enough to let them learn, by the time they reached their mid twenties we'd have some seriously talented, accomplished footballers on our hands.

yep! I bet everyone in the world would take Ramsey over Yaya the last 5 years.

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

I think Schneiderlin or Song will arrive this summer.

Two good homegrown centre midfielders.

City have to think twice now. If Dyke's proposals go through, neither of these will count as homegrown from 2016 and then you have to ask, is Alex Song or even Schneiderlin (depending on what alternatives are available) worth a spot in the 25 if they take 1 of the 13 foreign spots allowed. The 17 spots right now are like gold dust, imagine how selective we'll have to be if it drops to 13 as we'll be padding our squad with English mediocrity.

It'll never happen, it would ruin every chance in Europe for English teams, it would be a selfdestruction plan from Dyke.

Enter tom cleverly

 

[pavelsrnicek]

They can't just change the rules overnight & tell everyone that players who they have signed, expecting to be eligible, will not be afterall. People will have planned and budgeted.

If it ever does come in, they will set a date & it will apply to all playrrs signed after that date. Nobody signed now will fail to qualify.

If they tried to retrospectively change the status of players like Song and Schneiderlin players effected would be able to take a case to the EU. Can see it being phased in, as you say, that is if it is legal in the first place.

 

[TrueBlue1705]

It'll never happen, it would ruin every chance in Europe for English teams, it would be a selfdestruction plan from Dyke.

Not really, when you consider United were perennially more successful in Europe with a core of British players than we have been with our alleged superior imports. When Chelsea won the CL in 2012 they had 4 British starters in the final, which would have been 5 had Terry not been suspended.

Aaron Ramsey has scored more Champions League goals for Arsenal than Toure has for us, while Bale and Rooney have both scored goals in CL finals in the past 5 years. Our entire club is stuck at second base; if it hadn't been for our English goalkeeper we would have been absolutely destroyed by a number of our European opponents in the past few years.

What the ruling would do is ensure more British players are granted the vital experience that the likes of Scholes, Bale and Rooney were all given that allowed them to become top level footballers.

Schneiderlin himself has had his game forged by English football, and has improved markedly with Premier League experience; joining a club like us would be the next natural step to see him become an elite level footballer. Dyke's vision is to see more domestic kids to get that kind of exposure early enough to gradually become top class players; Barry and Lescott were great for us in the league, but ultimately fell a bit short in Europe because they arrived at the top level too late. If we brought in the likes of Sterling, Barkley, Stones and Hughes and were patient enough to let them learn, by the time they reached their mid twenties we'd have some seriously talented, accomplished footballers on our hands.

yep! I bet everyone in the world would take Ramsey over Yaya the last 5 years.

Dyke is a muppet ... how the f*ck did that guy get the post at the FA? ... If they're not careful the FA will end up a laughing stock like FIFA

 

[Blue warrior]

Close to joining rags according to French media

 

[sam-caddick]

Close to joining rags according to French media

Same media who got Debuchy to Arsenal correct as well.

Also:

 

[richards30]

Fucks sake if true!!! Talk of a £15m fee as well! Better than fernando, homegrown.....at that price we should be all over him!

 

[southamptonblue]

....think i need to read up on this 'home grown' bollocks.
How is he homegrown if he's French and was signed as an 18 year old ?

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

....think i need to read up on this 'home grown' bollocks.
How is he homegrown if he's French and was signed as an 18 year old ?

Current rules state that you must have represented a club who is associated with the FA for 3 years minimum before your 21st birthday - so 18. I believe Schneiderlin just fits that bill.

The new rules, when Dyke introduces them, will mean he'd have had to have been signed 3 years before his 18th birthday - so 15.