New Brexit thread (with added poll)

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Ric, 3 Sep 2017.

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If the Brexit referendum was held now, how would you vote?

  1. Remain

    336 vote(s)
    60.4%
  2. Leave

    207 vote(s)
    37.2%
  3. Undecided

    13 vote(s)
    2.3%
  1. vonkeynotvenky

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    May and Cameron are Tories and my reference to the new socialists wasn't aimed at them, it was aimed at the new socialists who are merely globalists pretending to be on the side of progressive politics whilst supporting undermining the UK poor by supporting free movement of people which really means free movement of unskilled labour.
    The other thread was all about finances and how the cliff edge is coming and how we are going to get bent over by the EU negotiating cronies, there wasn't a sniff of understanding why the real poor (Not the new socialist globalist types) would vote to Brexit. Are you a person who is a fan of progressive politics? If you are how do you marry that ideal with flooding the market with unskilled labour and hamstringing anyone on the bottom rung because there are more applicants than positions available?
     
  2. kevin horlocks wand

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    It's just a shame all those intelligent people could not persuade 17.4 million thickos of their argument.
     
  3. mcfc1632

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    Hey - I was just seeking to support your proposition....
     
  4. Damocles

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    That's because the better educated you are, the richer/more specialised you generally are and the less immigration affects you.

    Let's be absolutely clear on this - immigration is a process that benefits the country but is paid for almost entirely by the working class.

    The working class also know this which is why they've fought tooth and nail for border controls for about 50 years. One more thing that THEY have to sacrifice in the "national interest" so that everybody else but them can benefit from it.

    And yes, of course they benefit from the NHS worker immigration before anybody starts pulling that strawman. But if you gave them a choice of having longer hospital waiting times compared with actually having a job, a home and general prosperity then I'm pretty sure they'd sit in A&E for a fwe extra hours.

    The only people who don't understand the Leave side's argument are generally the people completely unaffected by those arguments whether we Remain or Leave.
     
  5. worsleyweb

    worsleyweb

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    Was leave and still am.
     
  6. Len Rum

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    Not if ( as was stated previously) their priority is existential rather than transactional.
     
  7. cibaman

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    Most of the people who post on here have fairly entrenched views, I doubt that many will have changed their opinion.

    As for the wider population, I think the vast majority are fairly uninterested at the moment. Once the final deal (or no deal) is agreed then that might change.
     
  8. kevin horlocks wand

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    Agree Len the preservation and identity of the European superstate is far important to the European establishment than the people or the economy. That is why the negotiations will be so tough for the uk because the eu are happy with an illogical outcome. What I mean is a poor outcome for both sides as they will then have their example to others...
     
  9. chabal

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    Although the populations of most major cities with their higher numbers of immigrants and greater multicultural communities tended to vote remain whereas those areas far less affected by immigration tended to vote leave.
     
  10. vonkeynotvenky

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    Immigrants didn't get a vote did they? You mean UK nationals don't you?

    The Brexit map tells you all you need to know.

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