And it’s like arguing with a smug patronising know it all with you. At least others are willing to acknowledge other points and the other sides view. Christ , I have even said I want a soft Brexit and a deal with Europe. Having a view on the eu and not believing in it is not the same as arguing the earth is flat - factually the earth is not. The eu on the other hand is a political body and people are allowed to have a different view on whether it’s a good thing or not. I Get the fact that you believe it’s the best thing in the world ever and shall not be criticised at all and anyone who does criticise it or indeed has a different view to you is a thicko and the opinion simply ignored or ridiculed. But hey bob we all know you are right on everything , please just tell us all the answers to the worlds problems . Have you considered becoming an MEP?