Well, obviously it did hinder you, as you STILL finished bottom, despite your 'heroic' performances in your cup finals. Not arrogant, just telling the truth, pal. If this competition had been in this format back in 68, you'd never have got near the final, nor will you ever again. And, if you take your own advice and read back, nowhere did I say us getting to the semi-final was a huge achievement, I was merely pointing out fact. I suppose you were one of the 6 million in Lisbon, or one of the 20m in Seville, it goes up every time we get told about it.