Predicting excellence

Discussion in 'EDS and Academy Forum' started by bobom, 11 Feb 2017.

  1. malg

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    Watched a cracking documentary about youth basketball in the US. My life, they heap a shit load of pressure on youngster over there, even ranking them from a very young age. They work ridiculously hard just to get a college place - even then, the best of the best don't even get a start when they get to college. I'd like to think our youngsters aren't under the same pressures.
     
  2. caseball

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    Why not incorporate the EDS into a local lower league club, e.g Hyde, Altrincham and see if they can play their way up the ladder under that name? They'd be in league 3 in two seasons?
     
  3. CityStu

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    Surely multiple ownership would come into play (or maximum loan player limits)? Believe that's an FA rule rather than a Football League one.
     
  4. asahartford1

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    No I say that because the elite clubs in Spain yield too much power.
    The lack of of success at international level is because we constantly employ inept coaches . The FA is not fit for purpose.
     
  5. Neville Kneville

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    I think incentives would be , not necessarily 'the answer' , but a huge improvement. But imo the incentives would have to be on the playing side.

    Typically of this country, all they can think of is squad cutting & sanctions, to force teams to use more homegrown players.

    What about an actual football advantage by using them ? You can have more subs for example, if the extra ones are academy players, below a certain age, but they have to be used before, say, 70mins or they can't come on as extras. So if you have all 3 subs on, you can still use two homegrown kids as well, but you have to give them at least 20 mins, not just use them for the last 5

    And if you don't use them in a certain number of games in the first half of the season,, you lose the extra sub places for the 2nd half of the season.

    I think that would guarantee more kids got on the pitch. The clubs who took best advantage, would be very strong late in games. Those who didn't care, would soon reaslise they needed to.
     
  6. Frank76

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    Interesting thread. The evidence is still not convincing for even having an academy then at a club like ours. There is zero connection with our first team and for all the hype there's no chance for even the most talented youngsters to break in.
     
  7. ColinLee

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    I can only presume from that post that you have not a clue about City's academy.
     
  8. asahartford1

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    Missed that doc. Would have liked to have seen it.
    Presumably the best of them eventually make it though. It is not as though they are buying in foreign players.
    Perhaps we need to find a way of putting more psychological pressure on our academy players.
    We seem to treat our young players like stars before they achieve anything.
     
  9. Frank76

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    Enlighten me and it's advantages to our first team. Given in the last decade I can't think of a single player proving a real asset perhaps I'm missing the point of it?

    Guess CFA looks impressive but like the poster above states there is a potential that our young players are spoiled. Do the best players train on fancy pitches and go to private schools?
     
  10. ColinLee

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    I didn't mention the last decade let alone education (you think that's a bad thing?) Your statement was:

    Why don't you enlighten me on that? BTW do you think Messi, Xavi or Iniesta had a hard life at Barca's academy or do you think they should get rid too?
     

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