If that is the case it takes the piss. All his assets should be seized and in the cases of Messrs Hall and Harris their wealth used to fund Barnardos, Samaritans NSPCC, Gt Ormond street etc. Bit harsh on the nonces families but tbf, their dad/husband shouldn't be beasting kids.marco said:The Flash said:nijinsky's fetlocks said:Financial well being and security is largely irrelevant to a predatory paedophile - it doesn't matter how much they have in the bank, if they have sexual feelings towards minors then they will inevitably seek out situations where they can act upon those impulses - in fact their fame and reputation as celebrities is often the the very thing that allows them access to children in the first place, as we saw with Savile before him.
And then that position of trust makes it harder for their victims to come forward and be believed - even on this website, folk were reluctant to entertain the idea that nice, friendly Rolf could be an abuser, as people are often taken in by the public facade of respectability.
I doubt Harris has any concept of the impact his vile behaviour has had upon his victims, in fact it's more likely that he will see himself as the victim here - this lack of empathy and self-pity is a recurring feature in paedophiles who are brought to justice.
As to his estimated £12 million fortune, I would be amazed if his victims ever see a penny of it, but then closure to them will be seeing him brought out of Wandsworth in a body bag rather than any compensation claim.
I'm sure that the judge stated that following his conviction, he would not have to pay compensation to the victims.
Can a judge do that? And if so, does it bar the victims from claiming compo with a civil claim?
without doubt there will be civil claims landing on the desk of rolf's solicitor, his personal wealth is around 12 million but his home is owned by his wife and that cant be touched, stewart hall was very crafty and put all his funds into accounts of his family members he wont be paying a penny out to his victims as he now has no money
StrangewaysHereWeCome said:If that is the case it takes the piss. All his assets should be seized and in the cases of Messrs Hall and Harris their wealth used to fund Barnardos, Samaritans NSPCC, Gt Ormond street etc. Bit harsh on the nonces families but tbf, their dad/husband shouldn't be beasting kids.marco said:The Flash said:I'm sure that the judge stated that following his conviction, he would not have to pay compensation to the victims.
Can a judge do that? And if so, does it bar the victims from claiming compo with a civil claim?
without doubt there will be civil claims landing on the desk of rolf's solicitor, his personal wealth is around 12 million but his home is owned by his wife and that cant be touched, stewart hall was very crafty and put all his funds into accounts of his family members he wont be paying a penny out to his victims as he now has no money
mayo31 said:Take the fact that both Hall and Harris are scum bags out of it but can or could their earnings be classed as proceeds of crime, I cannot see how they can be compared with Curtis Warren.
It would be difficult to prove that any of Rolf's money was made abusing anyone. It could be said his paintings or portraits are some form of abuse as they are shit.
mayo31 said:You have a point.
I not keen on the idea that they were given 'time' to sort out their assets before the case was concluded.
marco said:mayo31 said:You have a point.
I not keen on the idea that they were given 'time' to sort out their assets before the case was concluded.
to a certain degree depending on your views it could be said that Stuart halls immediate family are indeed preventing claim awards to the victims by sitting on his cash therefore in my eyes they are not much better than hall themselves and they certainly have no thoughts towards the victims what so ever