Russia bombing Isis/ Syria?

[mat]

Good thread this.

Some posters actually reaserch it over the propoganda being sent out by both media sides.

 

[mat]

Only if Cameron is there to make the coffee/tea.

Putin would make Call Me Dave fuck a live pig in front of him.

Obama is shit scared of him.

 

[foxy]

just like Afghanistan when they got their arses handed to them

The Russian armed forces aren't all that they have been hyped by the Pentagon to keep their funds up

Different country, terrain and army.

ISIS aren't battle hardened Mujaheddin who live in mountains..

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Shouldn't it be the scientists and researchers from Columbia University and the University of California Santa Barbara that take the flack for this statement ?

Flack? There's no flack. Just seemed appropriate as they asked her opinion on Middle East problems last time? We should be asking those scientists and researchers who they think will win Eurovision this year? ;-)

 

[aguero93:20]

It's going to take the states years to recover from how much of a pushover Obama has been here.

 

[BlueHammer85]

It's going to take the states years to recover from how much of a pushover Obama has been here.

How would George W Bush have handled this out of interest ?

 

[the blue panther]

How would George W Bush have handled this out of interest ?

I suspect that, one way or the other, he would have fucked things up - it's what USA does, whether Republicans or Democrats. Right now, Putin has the upper hand, with international law completely on his side, and Assad must be feeling very safe again.
Personally, if my assessment is right, I'm glad, as I'm sick of the 'west' conspiring to remove such dictators. No good ever comes of it - at least not in recent history.

 

[aguero93:20]

How would George W Bush have handled this out of interest ?

Probably would have gone in all guns blazing and terrified the Russians back into their shell, confirming the US's place as top dog. Not saying that's the right thing to do but Obama has ceded that place to Putin by drawing a line in the sand and not standing by it.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Probably would have gone in all guns blazing and terrified the Russians back into their shell, confirming the US's place as top dog. Not saying that's the right thing to do but Obama has ceded that place to Putin by drawing a line in the sand and not standing by it.

All guns blazing against Russia and Syria ? Drawing in China aswell ... Perhaps starting world war 3 and you say 'not saying that's the right thing to do' !

Pretty clear looking back, that arming rebel forces to get Assad out of power was the wrong thing to do, but then America would just get criticised for allowing murderous regimes to dictate country's and people would say the presidents a coward for not taking action when a dictator is killing and gassing his own people.

 

[aguero93:20]

All guns blazing against Russia and Syria ? Drawing in China aswell ... Perhaps starting world war 3 and you say 'not saying that's the right thing to do' !

Pretty clear looking back, that arming rebel forces to get Assad out of power was the wrong thing to do, but then America would just get criticised for allowing murderous regimes to dictate country's and people would say the presidents a coward for not taking action when a dictator is killing and gassing his own people.

China aren't going to get involved in any conflicts, they've as much if not more invested in the states as they do in Russia.

Arming the rebel groups was always the wrong thing to do, you don't let others fight your battles for you.

Edit: Criticised? The only thing any state can do is look after their own citizens and the only time they should be criticised is when they fail to do so, so the USA deserve plenty of criticism but if they'd stayed out of Syria that wouldn't be one of the reasons.