Sturgeon wants another referendum

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  1. sir baconface

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    Why would she have to resign? Cameron felt obliged to resign for several reasons. I believe the main ones were:

    a) He had nailed his public colours too firmly to the EU mast, even after being humiliated in the pre-negotiation.
    b) He was strongly associated with Project Fear.
    c) He was negligent in making fcuk all contingency plan for a "no" vote.
    d) He's first and foremost a PR man, not a manager or implementer.

    Picking up the reins after that would have been both untenable and unpalatable.

    May needs to stick to her guns re no Scottish referendum until after Brexit. She can then cross the Indyref2 bridge when she comes to it. Who knows what the backdrop will be at that point? There is no guarantee Scots will vote for independence if there's a real prospect of being outside both the Union and EU.
     
  2. sir baconface

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    Have I missed something? Has he been perfecting the goose step?
     
  3. cibaman

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    Because she would have agreed to a referendum, when she didnt have to, and then lost. She would be out as quick as Cameron.
     
  4. mcfc1632

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    Sorry - it is all just wishful thinking on your behalf

    There is simply no motivation for the vast majority of the UK to wish for it any earlier and absolutely no motivation for May to seek it any earlier.

    It is only the SNP voters that have this desire - and frankly in the UK set of priorities in the coming years they do not have any priority whatsoever.

    They also have no leverage so they will just have to keep bleating on to try and keep the topic relevant in 4 years - tough job that.
     
  5. mcfc1632

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    "......................ignoring the democratic rights of Scotland and that is very tricky.

    It just is"

    Well it just isn't for anyone in the 60m+ - fuck me what an over-blown sense of your own importance you SNP types have

    You need to get over yourselves as we, the vast majority, simply don't give much of a fuck about your demands
     
  6. Tanzeylee

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    Not quite a goose step but he waddles like a duck
     
  7. Sturgeon is deluded. she has no currency, no lender of last resort, no way of paying off the sovereign debt (she said on Peston yesterday that it wasn't her problem as it had all happened on "Westminster's watch) no clear path into the EU (Spain wont allow it)

    She also said that the UK wouldn't put up any barriers to Scotland still trading with us. if we have a no deal Brexit then we would have normal WTO tariffs !!

    maybe the referendum should be the other 60million voting whether we want to keep them.
     
  8. Mëtal Bikër

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    Most Prime Ministers have been unelected when they took office. It's a moot point anyway as we don't vote for a Prime Minister in the UK.

    You're only deluding yourself if you think the Prime Minister has any obligation to approve of any referendum request that is put forward. Cameron called for referendums to put an end to the debate and get a concrete answer so as to go forward. If the Scots had left in 2014 I reckon he'd have stepped down then. There is no pledge in the Conservative Government's manifesto to offer the Scottish people a second referendum, so of course she can refuse it. Plaid Cymru have been calling for a Welsh Referendum for years now.
     
  9. "I think it wouldn't be fair to the people of Scotland (to grant a second independence referendum) because they'd be being asked to make a crucial decision without the necessary information, without knowing what the future partnership will be or what the alternative arrangements would look like."
    Teresa May, March 2017.
    And to think, people say satire is dead.......
     
  10. crazyg

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    The McFuhrer?
     

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