This has cropped up in a discussion or two, again, recently & has done for many years, along with several other similar ones, so I thought I'd throw them together in here. 1) The idea, that if we, or any other club, let a player go, & he ends up in the lower leagues, or nowhere in particular, it's proof that he would never have made it. There is also: 'if he didn't do it on loan at.... then he'd never make it here' And: ''ah he's alright in Scotland, but, he'll never make it here' Well it's just not true imo. Each case is not the same as the next & players 'not making it' is not necessarily because they weren't talented enough, it can just be that things didn't happen for them, at the right time, or they didn't get the right break. And I'll give this comment from a piece I read today, which I thought was a perfect example: One of the top players in the Premier League will tell you all about the difficulties of making it at St Mirren. Sportsmail revealed in December how Leicester City’s Riyad Mahrez had sought a breakthrough at the club, got nowhere near the team, and borrowed a bike to retrieve his boots from the training ground, ahead of a moonlit flit. ‘Ah yes, I heard about Riyah and the bike,’ grins Mooy, and though he did get his chance at the Paisley club, he can relate to Mahrez’s recollections of the bitterly cold climate. Boxing Day 2010 saw Mooy on an eight-hour round trip by coach to face Inverness Caledonian Thistle in the Scottish Premier. He was a non-playing substitute in a 2-1 win. ‘Tough times but it was good and it makes you stronger,’ he reflects, though ten starts in two seasons hardly represented the breakthrough he was looking for. He returned to Australia two years later and in the depths of winter 2015, with hopes of a European breakthrough fast diminishing, he was extremely close to taking SaudiArabian riches and signing for Al-Nassr. They were offering more than $2 million - the greatest sum ever spent on a player based in Australia. ‘I really was thinking about it because I was 25 and you start to think are you ever going to get another chance to go to Europe?’ he reflects. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ds-Aaron-Mooy-living-dream.html#ixzz55weOdAgX Two current Premier League players, both at St Mirren, couldn't get in their team. One of them, we offered over 50 million quid for. Yet if we send a 17 year old kid there tomorrow, & he doesn't play, most will see it as 'proof' he isn't good enough & quote it on here.