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Trevor Sinclair - 'Young England players need opportunities'
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BlueHammer85
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Managers can get the sack after half a season nowadays, they cant risk giving youngsters a chance - would like to see a FA rule implement a rule where you need to field at least 3 U21's or something along them lines - but until then, no manager should be forced into something they don't want too
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B teams
B teams
It's not traditional but it really is the way forward. Germany has it, Spain has it, it's no surprise they're thriving.
There has to be some compensation though, more money has to filter down into the football league, make a 5th and 6th tier that is part of the football league and make them professional leagues (they pretty much are these days).
Maybe not such a great idea to introduce a rule that made it cheap and easy for big teams with huge academies to poach young players off smaller teams who would have been far more likely to give them a chance then? The EPPP is probably the worst thing to happen to youth football in this country and it'll only get worse as the big teams get more and more of a backlog of the best youngsters all fighting for next to no first team opportunities, instead of getting plenty of game time in the lower leagues for teams that really need them.
The England team is full of players who started their careers at teams like Sheffield United, MK Dons, Shrewsbury or Southampton, who were all in League 1 or the Championship when the players were there, yet that's going to completely dry up.
The England team is full of players who started their careers at teams like Sheffield United, MK Dons, Shrewsbury or Southampton, who were all in League 1 or the Championship when the players were there, yet that's going to completely dry up.
squirtyflower
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Nothing will change here until we have B teams.It's not traditional but it really is the way forward. Germany has it, Spain has it, it's no surprise they're thriving.
There has to be some compensation though, more money has to filter down into the football league, make a 5th and 6th tier that is part of the football league and make them professional leagues (they pretty much are these days).
I'm not sure about the compensation.
Lower league football is dying, something needs to be done.
Eccles Blue
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We used to have the reserve team 'league', where the youngsters could be 'blooded' and the senior/1st team players who were injured could test themselves out when they were almost ready for their come back.
The Bleacher report of 2013 makes interesting reading.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-be-allowed-to-play-in-english-lower-leagues
The Bleacher report of 2013 makes interesting reading.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-be-allowed-to-play-in-english-lower-leagues
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We used to have the reserve team 'league', where the youngsters could be 'blooded' and the senior/1st team players who were injured could test themselves out when they were almost ready for their come back.
The Bleacher report of 2013 points this out.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-be-allowed-to-play-in-english-lower-leagues
This
Why did reserve teams disappear?
What about a new team, independent of other clubs operating out of St. George's Park. Its an academy only team with no "senior" side per say, maxing out at Under 23. At 23 the players are auctioned off, any profits are put into the St. Georges youth levels. It would start at the bottom of the pyramid so would be a long term project. Eventually youth prospects would be looking to go to St. Georges for first team football rather than established clubs where pathways may be blocked.
Of course, something of this concept would require the FA avoiding conflict of interests, etc. so unlikely to work. Another option would be a new private club with the same concept of not buying players and only playing academy products with an ultimate goal of development, any cups or promotions being a bonus. I suppose this idea is essentially a B Team concept without links to established clubs. I suppose it could work if an established club with a decent academy decided "right, no more transfers in".
Of course, something of this concept would require the FA avoiding conflict of interests, etc. so unlikely to work. Another option would be a new private club with the same concept of not buying players and only playing academy products with an ultimate goal of development, any cups or promotions being a bonus. I suppose this idea is essentially a B Team concept without links to established clubs. I suppose it could work if an established club with a decent academy decided "right, no more transfers in".
Managers can get the sack after half a season nowadays, they cant risk giving youngsters a chance - would like to see a FA rule implement a rule where you need to field at least 3 U21's or something along them lines - but until then, no manager should be forced into something they don't want too
Applying quotas as such will minimise the quality of the league and no club will agree to it.
You say managers can get the sack after half a season nowadays, but that's always been the case in the likes of Spain and other continental European countries, yet they still manage to bring the youngsters through.
The issue in England now is that we have a generation coming through that has arguably never been seen in this country for a very long time, and that includes the so called golden generation. These lads have to break through soon or we risk blowing a huge opportunity for success at international level.
I wouldn't be surprised if many of them follow Sancho to the likes of the Bundesliga etc...
Personally, I still think the country has to bite the bullet and go with B teams. It's no coincidence that the 2 most successful European national teams of the last 10 years in Spain and Germany have them.
France benefits from having a conveyor belt of their top talent leaving every summer as the league financially cannot compete with others, therefore the young promising starlets are always usually getting an opportunity.