Well i certainly hope you never have to to live in the area where that stuff is dropped on you
Think some of your reply needs unpicking here. To deny any link between Western foreign policy and what Saddam did is not only naive but plain wrong. Of course he was a dictator able to kill thousands and thousands in crimes against humanity but he was "our man". The Americans sold him the fucking chemical weapons - in the course of my work I've met several who lived through Halabja and they detested Saddam but they also knew what the West was up to with their Middle East policies. The Americans could not let anyone threaten their oil and political interests and most of all IsraelThat's why the west backed Saddam as he slaughtered the Iranians whilst not giving a shit as so many Iraqis were also slaughtered. Then our man got a bit giddy and went into Kuwait- I've also been there - but he had to be put into his box as he started taking on Israel. There is no way any sort of pan Arab progressive government alliance can ever be allowed. Why do you think after the Arab Spring led to a more secular focussed govt post Mubarak that Morsi led an American backed coup to gain power undemocratically and lo and behold Egypt is back in its box. The Palestinian tragedy has been well told and continues to play out in front of us. I was there not too long ago and saw first hand how Palestinian towns next to certain UN declared Israeli settlements only receive water 12 or so days out of each month whilst the settlements have it 24 hours s day. look at the Sabra and Shatila massacres of men women and children by Sharon supported by the US. The US led war machine never stops and needs constant feeding- read Robert Fisk on the region of other researched evidence.Ask the Shia who he systemically genocided, black bagged and tortured over the past several decades how they feel about him. Including the 150,000 he killed as part of the Shiite uprising in 1991. Or the families of the 50,000 Kurds that he killed with mustard gas when they rebelled in the North.
Do you know why you keep finding Iraqis who have nothing bad to say about Saddam?
Because he fucking killed all the ones who did.
As I said earlier, your views are immoral. They're warped by a stupid causality, they're warped by a stupid protectionism of a Stone age culture and they're warped by a bad understanding of history. You say you've become educated but you haven't, you've just become contrarian. Western policy has nothing to do with why ISIS is killing gay people. It has nothing to do with Saddam gassing a quarter of a million people.
And your attempt to morally equate international military actions with terrorism who target kids at a concert is a fucking disgrace.
How are any of those statements compatible?Russia Today. I've never seen them lie and they have been good in the past with reporting on certain things but they do have a clear agenda to undermine NATO/EU countries to their own people as you'd expect from them. They're like an obviously biased, vodka swilling BBC.
Bada BingThink some of your reply needs unpicking here. To deny any link between Western foreign policy and what Saddam did is not only naive but plain wrong. Of course he was a dictator able to kill thousands and thousands in crimes against humanity but he was "our man". The Americans sold him the fucking chemical weapons - in the course of my work I've met several who lived through Halabja and they detested Saddam but they also knew what the West was up to with their Middle East policies. The Americans could not let anyone threaten their oil and political interests and most of all IsraelThat's why the west backed Saddam as he slaughtered the Iranians whilst not giving a shit as so many Iraqis were also slaughtered. Then our man got a bit giddy and went into Kuwait- I've also been there - but he had to be put into his box as he started taking on Israel. There is no way any sort of pan Arab progressive government alliance can ever be allowed. Why do you think after the Arab Spring led to a more secular focussed govt post Mubarak that Morsi led an American backed coup to gain power undemocratically and lo and behold Egypt is back in its box. The Palestinian tragedy has been well told and continues to play out in front of us. I was there not too long ago and saw first hand how Palestinian towns next to certain UN declared Israeli settlements only receive water 12 or so days out of each month whilst the settlements have it 24 hours s day. look at the Sabra and Shatila massacres of men women and children by Sharon supported by the US. The US led war machine never stops and needs constant feeding- read Robert Fisk on the region of other researched evidence.
No one in their right mind can ever justify or ever explain the barbarism of IS a lot of whose funding comes from our mates the Saudis. There is no causal link between what they do and any Western policies - they are backward, evil people using young impressionable losers to do a lot of their dirty work. But there are a lot of Arabs/Muslims in this country or abroad who instead of completely shunning and isolating the extremists point to our policies and some of the awful things we have done and say "now you know how we feel"
There is a growing movement that is saying - why don't we just stop bombing people for a bit and try another approach which is actually about promoting peace and stability
You may disagree but don't pretend Saddam worked in isolation from the West.
You need to clue yourself up on WP. It certainly fucking is.A New Zealand General confirmed it happened .it certainly is not the typ of munition used for smoke screens
It wasn't 'dropped' either. They were smoke mortar rounds.Well i certainly hope you never have to to live in the area where that stuff is dropped on you
In a statement, the Iraqi Joint Operations Command in Mosul rejected reports of the use of white phosphorus by Iraqi and coalition warplanes in Mosul.
The report stated the alleged chemical attack was an “intentional smoke screen to protect civilian lives.”
The statement said some news and social media sites published inaccurate reports on the use of phosphorus during the military operations against IS in Mosul.
On June 3, several civilians were fleeing IS-held areas toward the Iraqi security forces near Jimhuri hospital in western Mosul, and there was the danger of being targeted by IS snipers, the statement added.
“We relied on the international coalition to launch smoke screen attacks to hide the movement of the civilians from the IS extremists’ line of sight,” the report continued.
“[We wanted] to give the civilians a chance to flee toward the Iraqi forces,” the statement informed, stating the forces “succeeded in rescuing the civilians and protecting their lives.”
The Iraqi command explained that such smoke screen attacks were previously used in several areas in eastern and western Mosul for the purpose of protecting civilians from enemy fire.
Well if there were no people about there would be no need for a smoke screenThat's the point entirely, if they drop it on people it's a weapon, if they drop it in a field between you and the enemy it's a smoke screen, or at night as a flare in the area.
And there is no evidence or even suggestion in this case that it was dropped on or near people.
When i was in the Royal Navy we just fired smoke grenades from the mortar's or shells from the guns if we needed a smoke screen would never dream of using phosphorus shells for a smoke screen.You need to clue yourself up on WP. It certainly fucking is.
You forgot to blame Israel for 9/11 and to accuse IS's leader of being a Mossad agent.Think some of your reply needs unpicking here. To deny any link between Western foreign policy and what Saddam did is not only naive but plain wrong. Of course he was a dictator able to kill thousands and thousands in crimes against humanity but he was "our man". The Americans sold him the fucking chemical weapons - in the course of my work I've met several who lived through Halabja and they detested Saddam but they also knew what the West was up to with their Middle East policies. The Americans could not let anyone threaten their oil and political interests and most of all IsraelThat's why the west backed Saddam as he slaughtered the Iranians whilst not giving a shit as so many Iraqis were also slaughtered. Then our man got a bit giddy and went into Kuwait- I've also been there - but he had to be put into his box as he started taking on Israel. There is no way any sort of pan Arab progressive government alliance can ever be allowed. Why do you think after the Arab Spring led to a more secular focussed govt post Mubarak that Morsi led an American backed coup to gain power undemocratically and lo and behold Egypt is back in its box. The Palestinian tragedy has been well told and continues to play out in front of us. I was there not too long ago and saw first hand how Palestinian towns next to certain UN declared Israeli settlements only receive water 12 or so days out of each month whilst the settlements have it 24 hours s day. look at the Sabra and Shatila massacres of men women and children by Sharon supported by the US. The US led war machine never stops and needs constant feeding- read Robert Fisk on the region of other researched evidence.
No one in their right mind can ever justify or ever explain the barbarism of IS a lot of whose funding comes from our mates the Saudis. There is no causal link between what they do and any Western policies - they are backward, evil people using young impressionable losers to do a lot of their dirty work. But there are a lot of Arabs/Muslims in this country or abroad who instead of completely shunning and isolating the extremists point to our policies and some of the awful things we have done and say "now you know how we feel"
There is a growing movement that is saying - why don't we just stop bombing people for a bit and try another approach which is actually about promoting peace and stability
You may disagree but don't pretend Saddam worked in isolation from the West.
Not just people like me questioning Israel but the UN over many years and human rights groups.You forgot to blame Israel for 9/11 and to accuse IS's leader of being a Mossad agent.
Not really worth "unpicking" your post when nearly everything in it is total rubbish.