VPN/Proxy servers

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by aguerrrroooooooooooo, 18 Mar 2017 at 4:56 PM.

  1. SilverFox2

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    Thanks ag, USA based PureVPN, works great but who knows what legal constraints the FBI use these days especially when you pay in dollars.
     
  2. SilverFox2

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    Thanks Damocles, that all makes sense and who knows what leverage the media has in USA we certainly get problems legally in UK.
     
  3. aguerrrroooooooooooo

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    Yeah Damos answer explains it better than I can; if you want an alternative give Nord VPN a try; they only fail in business ethics according to the spreadsheet the website has; everything else is all green :)
     
  4. Chippy_boy

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    Do you think EU laws which require ISP's to maintain logs, would apply to those servers which reside in the EU, irrespective of where the operators are? i.e. under EU law, are Nord are obliged to keep server logs for their UK servers, even though Nord is based in Panama?

    I would imagine they are flouting EU laws if indeed they do not keep any logs. As to how feasible or likely it is for the UK (or other European) police to prosecute a business in Panama is a different question though I guess.
     
  5. 80s Shorts

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    Is it easy enough to flash a router without bricking the thing? I can get the Netgear R7000 "Nighthawk" from Argos for £120.00. From Flashrouters a preconfigured one costs the best part of £300.00. A couple of guides I looked at seem simple to follow. I just wondered if I am likely to run into problems as I am definitely a networking novice.
     
  6. SilverFox2

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    Replied once to your post but have been thinking about this.

    As you say the history may not be logged but could any Country say USA or UK use the suspicion of crime violation as a basis to twist the arm of even a Panama based VPN provider ?
    I feel NordVPN are either outside UK legislation or they are not so criminal liability is possibly not an issue and if it is then any stream violation could surely be extended to Panama ?
     
  7. aguerrrroooooooooooo

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    I think you have to remember a few things here silver
    1) If VPN providers were forced to keep logs of customer activity you can be sure they would stop providing UK based servers or they would at least inform their customers by email
    2) You are not the lowest hanging fruit; why would authorities actively pursue someone who has taken measures to keep themselves secure when there are loads of people who haven't taken any security measures?
    3) End users don't get targeted as much as providers do; it's the people who provide streams, cardshare and IPTV servers are the people they are interested in; not saying that can't change but that's the situation at this moment in time :)
     
  8. Jalfraag

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    The r7000 is a great choice. I've flashed mine many times with no problems.
    Most bricks can be recovered with a serial-usb cable and a bit of patience.
    Amazon it/es/de might be worth checking especially warehouse deals.
     
  9. SilverFox2

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    Thanks ag, the points you raise are valid but when our need is for a non logging VPN Company and a Panama address seems to foot the bill I am a little concerned. because Dom quite rightly mentions criminal activity such as paedophiles and hacking the CIA so I assume the Panama based company either accommodates them without action or denies them membership.

    Do you not think this provider is getting the special treatment from the FBI and the UK based Interception Centres already?
     
  10. aguerrrroooooooooooo

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    There really is no way to know if a VPN company is a honeypot to be honest Silver, however let's work under the assumption that your worst fears are correct and that Nord VPN are handing over customer info to legal authorities. (Which I'm fairly sure they aren't)
    Would the FBI start going round arresting or prosecuting internet pirates that are secured with a VPN? Because if they do people will know something is up with Nord VPN and they would lose that honeypot and therefore terrorists and peadophiles would know to stay clear of them. I also doubt that people who are seriously breaking the law would only be using a VPN; they would probably be either using a botnets or I2P
    In short if you are using a VPN with no logs and out of a five eyes jurisdiction then I wouldn't worry mate :)
     

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