What Causes Autism?

You need to look at what has changed in tandem and on such a short time scale. Processed food and the associated chemical build up in the mothers body could have some subtle effects we have not noticed. I keep getting the feeling that lifestyle and diet must be a contributing factor.

Is autism common in country's where there is little processed food? these are the areas i would investigate.

You are what you eat!

As the father of an adhd/autisic lad and another who's looking the same way, you can sometimes tell straight away so before they're even fed anything bar breast milk. Pretty sure it's genetic since my dad, uncles, grand uncles and other members of the family have all displayed similar traits going back nearly a century. Just no one was looking for it
 
from what I can see the single biggest reason there is a rise in autism is down to the diagnosis criteria. what is classed as autism now wouldn't have been years ago ( asberges for example ).
Spot on. Everyone loves a label as well. I've tested many children and quite a few adults that think they are autistic because they've read something online, or done a survey online. It's 100% sure to say there were proportionately as many people with autism 200 years ago as there are now. It just didn't exist then. It didn't exist when I was at school in the 70's/80's. I was just seen as quiet. But I loved my sport and was good at it so got away with it and developed friendships through those teams. Kids don't have the sporting opportunities I had and the world is a completely different place now, so it's harder to mask. I didn't get diagnosed until I was 33 and it was a massive relief. I think the increase and ease you can get tested is both good and bad. Good for people like me and children who need help, bad for parents looking to label little Johny so they can get benefits and unfair advantages in school.
 
That's a very catch all assertion.

Of course there are benefits to some games, etc. But there are also a section of children who are increasingly lacking social skills, resilience and the ability to handle certain social circumstances. More worryingly, there are a growing part of those that develop into serious mental health issues. All I'm asking is 'could the two be related'? (Obviously there would be other factors involved too). Or is it a coincidence that they have occurred at the same time as the option for children to be increasingly insular and living online?

I do think it's a coincidence and I'm not even sure there's that much of an actual decrease in mental health among kids.
Diagnostic tools have gotten better and criteria have changed, so kids are getting diagnosed and 'treated', whereas, 20 years ago, they might 've just flown under the radar or be labelled as 'difficult' or i.e. active in the case of ADHD.
I'm not so sure that 'living online' is all that insular, given the abundance of social networks etc. It might have an impact on what we consider normal social behaviour but that's an ever evolving convention and, if anything, we, as parents/elders, are to blame for setting the example, the devices we use are pretty harmless/irrelevant.
Total immersion would obviously have detrimental effects on any kid's development, the trick is to strike a healthy balance between on and offline activities.
 
OCD nothing to do with being house proud. I've known many people who keep a clean house. But they didn't have an issue leaving the house because they hadn't done 36 clockwise and 36 anti clockwise scrubs of the kitchen top. They don't have and issue going upstairs because they've touched a door handle and its made it full of germs. OCD is a debilitating condition and to class it as something insignificant is akin to telling the clinically depressed to "cheer up and shake yourself"

Some socially awkward people are on the autistic spectrum just like some outlandish or risk taking people or hard faced people are mild psychopaths. It's not to be brushed aside!

I think you've completely missed the point I was getting at.

The OCD thing was regarding people who diagnose themselves with OCD because they clean alot.

My point was simply people that self diagnose themselves with a specific disability because of a certain trait they have.

People have a tenancy to assume because someone is different they must have some sort of disposition.

2 weeks ago I had a seizure in my house, soon as I let everyone know, people have been telling me I'm epileptic, doctors are saying it's likely low blood pressure, but I'm mentally capable enough to know it's neither. A lesser person would think they were an epileptic with low blood pressure.

Obviously Autism is a serious thing that shouldn't be swept away, but what I'm getting at is that it is also something that shouldn't be diagnosed on every person who is a little socially inept.
 
I was diagnosed in the summer of '15.

I cannot tell you what causes autism but it is quite frankly fallacious to say it's more common than diabetes and asthma.

The whole 'everyone is on the spectrum' is a load of rubbish, too. I would do anything to experience the world through a neurotypical's eyes for just one day. My low emotional and social intelligence and poor working memory have severely affected my life to the point where I have to rely on benefits to survive. There's a reason why those on spectrum are at greater risk of suicide and life expectancy is significantly lower than NTs.
 
book by chantal sicile-kira - autism spectrum disorders is a very interesting read. myself having worked in that field would say there is no definitive cause for it and it is far easier to say what does not cause it. there are many things to take into consideration - characteristics, diagnostic criteria, MMR jabs - connection? treatments, therapies, transition from a child to adult with ASD.
 
I've had a lot of exposure to learning disabilities, social impairments and general developmental disorders and since it just so happened that I was having a debate with someone about autism and the recent prevalence of diagnoses recently, I thought I add my tuppence.
Apologies if this goes on..

As most people have said, the main reason we're seeing more autistic people is because more people are being diagnosed. Due to the world getting smarter, and ideas being spread more, a greater number of doctors are able to diagnose the condition. Similarly, due to the reducing nature of the stigma previously associated with mental conditions, more people have been willing to get checked out. Particularly adults aware they may never have received diagnosis as a child.

That's the simple answer, but there are concerns going forward.

Something I've heard a few times, is that autism is very Hollywood. For one, there's a certain charm about a seemingly competent adult who struggles a bit in doing regular adult stuff. The obvious is socialising in general, but then there's the lack of eye contact, the lack of empathy (I think that one is a myth by the way), the idiosyncratic mannerisms, the hand flailing (my favourite), the general social unintelligence, the obsessive habits etc. Some autistic people can't lie,which is in itself a very childlike trait (Children under 4 usually can't comprehend sophistry).

But more-so, as is the major issue with understanding the condition, the disorder is a very large spanning one. This means that from an industry perspective, there's a lot more room for both creativity and error in the portrayal of a character with Autism. In fact, I believe there is indeed a thing called Hollywood autism if someone can be bothered to google that for me.

What this has lead to is autism becoming a fad. But unlike previous fads (ADHD, OCD), an autistic spectrum disorder is easier to be diagnosed for. Whilst the more traditional form of autism is very easy to see in someone (like ADHD and OCD), Asperger Syndrome can be very difficult to detect in certain people, and often doesn't present itself too differently (on the outside) to a typical/neurotypical person who might just have certain specific anti-social traits. And as it turns out, in an age where technology is taking over, anti-social behaviours have tended to be on the up too.

When someone says, 'Oh I'm so OCD/ADHD lol!' it's normally quite easy for anyone who understands the conditions to be dismissive. But it's not with Asperger's. Many people who possess certain anti-social qualities (lack of eye contact and empathy particularly) claim to be somewhat autistic too. But where I'm going with that idea; is that combining this with the extremely varying nature of autism, as well as the fact that people with the condition often only present specific disorders (eg they struggle with socialising, but they don't present anything physical) has meant that there's probably been an increase in misdiagnoses (self or otherwise), primarily because it's just as difficult to say someone doesn't have some form of the condition, especially when there are people out there who claim that everyone is on the spectrum somehow. I imagine several personality disorders are incorrectly categorised under autism.

I think the major result of all this is a huge misunderstanding of the condition in both the media and public opinion. As such, any discussion on the subject is always going to be difficult (Just look at this vaccines bullshit). As with anything, people without any direct experience of the condition will always be at risk to not truly appreciating the condition. In fact someone with said experience might resent us using terms like autism, as opposed to the newly trendy neurotypical and atypical.

The conclusion of this is even though it seems autism is on the up, it's too hard to really know what's going on for sure because autism is both an incredibly widespanning and misinterpreted condition in itself.


Now, as to what specifically causes it, I don't know. But there has been research suggesting that autism has been around a long time, and it had it's advantages back in the early human days. This would suggest there's a genetic cause that we've 'evolved' to have.

But I don't imagine there's a specific autistic gene. I'd assume there's a very large combination of certain genomes that leads to an ASD development, hence the huge variety in individual cases. There's bound to be some environmental and epigenetic actions too.
 
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As the father of an adhd/autisic lad and another who's looking the same way, you can sometimes tell straight away so before they're even fed anything bar breast milk. Pretty sure it's genetic since my dad, uncles, grand uncles and other members of the family have all displayed similar traits going back nearly a century. Just no one was looking for it
I mean in gestation even bud, what makes the mum makes the kid.
 
I have nothing of value to add to this thread, really.

However, for a couple of years I have had an idea that children born to older parents may more commonly be autistic. Nothing scientific about this 'theory'. I haven't looked at stats at all.

My partner and I were mid-twenties when we had our daughter. The several kids at nursery who are clearly showing autistic tendencies have parents 10-20+ years older than us. I'm sure this isn't the case around the country, but I have only had a small sample to judge from!

I'm not trying to cause any offence or anything to anybody! This is my ill-informed observation.
 

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