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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:48 pm 
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Mad Eyed Screamer wrote:
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1487611_manchester-city-under-fire-from-europe-over-400m-deal-with-etihad-airline

Clubs such as Manchester City should be prohibited by UEFA from being sponsored by companies closely associated with their owners, a Council of Europe committee stated today.
The estimated £400million partnership deal between City and Etihad airline has been described as an "improper transaction" in a report by the Council's culture, science, education and media committee. It also highlights Real Madrid's sale of its training ground to the city for more than 400million euros as possibly giving the club an unfair advantage.
The Council of Europe cannot impose any rules however - it is separate from the European Union and acts as a watchdog body. Their report says UEFA will have to take care to ensure their financial fair play rules, where clubs must only spend what they earn, are not circumvented. "Clubs will no doubt try to supplement their income if possible.
They could for example call on sponsors to invest more so as to reduce or eliminate their deficits," says the report. "Care will have to be taken to prevent any circumvention of the financial fair play rules in this way. "A case in point is Manchester City, which has entered into a contract estimated at £400million with the airline Etihad. Etihad belongs to the Abu Dhabi royal family, and the Abu Dhabi United Group, which is led by Suleiman Al-Fahim, owns Manchester City. "In order to avoid improper transactions of this kind, UEFA should prohibit clubs from sponsoring themselves or using associated bodies to do so. "There is also a need to monitor the 'purchases' of sponsors, who should not overpay for the rights they acquire." Manchester City are by no means the only leading European club with such a deal. Paris St Germain, owned by one of the members of Qatar's ruling family, last month announced a major sponsorship deal with the Qatar National Bank.
The committee warned that public authorities can indirectly give financial help to clubs - and that is part of the problem. The report adds: "This poses the question at which point competition between clubs can significantly be distorted, and some clubs enjoy an undue advantage, as a result of the financing of sports infrastructure, its sale to sports companies or placing on loan to teams, the granting of subsidies, loans, tax breaks or other financial benefits, gifts, the purchase by public authorities of advertising space or, indeed, facilities belonging to clubs, or other measures to support sports companies. "For example, in the early 2000s Real Madrid was able to sell its training ground back to the city for more than 400million euros. "There is a need for strict application of the ban on state aid for professional sports companies."
The committee is against the introduction of a salary cap. It says to do so would lead to a reduction in pay of less well-known players "especially young players or players from African or Asian countries" and the temptation for clubs to enter "into secret deals or to reach arrangements with sponsors to transfer part of the costs to them".


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Etihad belongs to the Abu Dhabi royal family, and the Abu Dhabi United Group, which is led by Suleiman Al-Fahim, owns Manchester City
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:54 pm 
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There is nothing "improper" about the Etihad sponsorhsip deal: a deal that will provide vital jobs in a financially deprived area in difficult times. A deal that will regenerate an area of East Manchester.

Any attempt to stop the Etihad sponsorship deal should result in a legal action. It would be a restraint of trade. In any case, the deal is done. It is without a benchmark because it is a unique deal, covering more than just shirt sponsorship.

Who are the Council of Europe? More faceless bureacrats who only cause problems (look at Greece's debt, not to mention Italy, Spain) or are they people with vested interests. The point is that nothing was done about Real Madrid's deal - that is an issue for the Spanish Government, not UEFA. If they accept it, so should we.

In any case, Suleiman Al Fahim does not own Manchester City. Sheikh Mansour of Abu Dhabi does.

One has to question the credibility of a report that cannot get its facts right.

More importantly, you have to question the morals of such an organisation that tries tomplay with ordinary people's futures.

For years we have lived at a disadvantage to the exiting cartel of clubs (G14) and their Champions League monopoly. I suspect their vested interests have something to do with this Council of Europe.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:59 pm 
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The inaccuracies contained in the few lines concerning City suggest that it was written by a four year old


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:00 pm 
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Would be good to be able to see the actual report. Had a look here

http://www.coe.int/lportal/web/coe-portal

but no idea where it might be and the e-mail contact link doesn't work.

Another bunch of Eurocrats trying to justify their existence.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:02 pm 
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so. A company from one part of the world is not allowed to sponsor a club or event who's owners are from the same part of the world....

that's fair.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:12 pm 
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riggymcfc123 wrote:
This is the reason i stopped buying the Evening News last year....they can't even be bothered checking the facts before publishing shite like this!......City's owner Suleiman Al-Fahim ????

Actually it is a direct quote from whatever faceless bureaucrat was pontificating, which demonstrates everything you need to know.

As Prestwich Blue has pointed out previously, the Etihad deal has not been labelled a related party deal in our accounts - which are subject to FSA standards and scrutiny. As we have not been pulled on that by the legal beagles - ie it is accepted by FSA that it isn't - then UEFA will be in court quicker than you can say "anti-English, Islamaphobic twat" if they try and pull us up.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:26 pm 
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strongbowholic wrote:
riggymcfc123 wrote:
This is the reason i stopped buying the Evening News last year....they can't even be bothered checking the facts before publishing shite like this!......City's owner Suleiman Al-Fahim ????

Actually it is a direct quote from whatever faceless bureaucrat was pontificating, which demonstrates everything you need to know.

As Prestwich Blue has pointed out previously, the Etihad deal has not been labelled a related party deal in our accounts - which are subject to FSA standards and scrutiny. As we have not been pulled on that by the legal beagles - ie it is accepted by FSA that it isn't - then UEFA will be in court quicker than you can say "anti-English, Islamaphobic twat" if they try and pull us up.


Quality post.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:30 pm 
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beehive_bob wrote:
Would be good to be able to see the actual report. Had a look here

http://www.coe.int/lportal/web/coe-portal

but no idea where it might be and the e-mail contact link doesn't work.

Another bunch of Eurocrats trying to justify their existence.



This is the report (i think!)

http://www.assembly.coe.int/Communicati ... eportE.pdf


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:30 pm 
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We all need to calm down with things like this. They are nothing more than cheap and easy journalism and cheap jibes by those who fear.

The team is not the old City. We may/may not win the league this year but either way it won't be down to the old City way. We have a team of seasoned first rate pros out on the field.

In the same way, the off field team is not the old Swales-like City. We have the best in the business behind the scenes too and EVERYTHING will be boxed off professionally and no rash steps taken finance wise without being totally sure we have every angle covered.

NO-ONE will successfully challenge or undermine a private capital based finance structure that is not based on leveraged debt. It would fly in the face of everything that is going on in the rest of our fucked up financial world!

Let them bleat about our solid ability to compete financially. Let United players and staff drone on about their 'been there before' end of season experience on the pitch.

We are here to stay and will compete indefinately. That is why we are never out of the news but in the last 6 months to a year, the spineless finger pointers are looking more and more like limp biscuits!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:39 pm 
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"man city killing Europe" since 2012 will be the headline in the mirror tomorrow.


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