Bluemoon-MCFC - Manchester City Football Club Manchester City Football Club - The Pride of Manchester
Bluemoon-MCFC Manchester City message board  
It is currently Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:05 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:05 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:49 pm
Posts: 1159

These ads are only displayed to guests.
Please login to remove them.

prairiemoon wrote:
I'd team him with Dzeko, like this....



............Milner............................Silva............

............................Dzeko..............................
.............................Nasri..............................


Forget Dzeko he´s history, and nasri is not as quick as he used to be but it could work.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:06 pm
Posts: 3749
Location: Just behind you
bondsman wrote:
Nasri doesn't have the work rate pace or strength to play like tevez or aguero.


That's what I suspect as well, that he doesn't have the strength or ability to protect/keep the ball like Tevez. But I would like to see him given a go at it.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:34 am
Posts: 1877
Location: Salford,The City where Nobheads think Trafford Rangers are from
alky313 wrote:
Nasri's open field vision is good, but during the run of play specifically in an attacking 3-4 it is lacking. He needs to keep his head up and play more passes through instead of into feet.

Thanks for that Mr Neville


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:56 pm
Posts: 2750
bondsman wrote:
Matt the Giant wrote:
lionheart wrote:
But don't we already have a couple of ideal players for the Tevez/Aguero role...namely Tevez and Aguero? What is the point of this thread I ask myself.


Aguero should play up front as a traditional poacher, not deeper in the hole.

Tevez might very well leave us soon so I think the question is interesting.

Nasri could play there, so could Silva and YaYa I guess. Some say Hazard is ideal for this and others mention Lavezzi, whom I personally think would be the best Tevez replacement.


Aguero enjoys coming deep, he's very good at beating players. He should not be played as a poacher. Nasri doesn't have the work rate pace or strength to play like tevez or aguero.


Bullshit. Aguero thrives in the poacher role. His ability in positioning, as Gary Neville pointed out, is immense, and should definitely be scoring at least 35 goals a season with our squad's service.

Aguero, when paired alongside someone like Balotelli, is made to play second fiddle and forced to drop deep. He isn't the best of visionaries, nor the best of passers, unlike Tevez, or Silva, who are more intelligent when it comes to looking for those pockets of space.


With regards to Nasri, I beg to differ. He has workrate, probably not a Tevez nor Aguero, and I'm amazed that when people point out "workrate" in our squad, they never ever mention Silva - a player with immense workrate.


I would love to see Nasri being played behind Aguero for a change, though. Nasri is very good when it comes to movement into the box, and playing those little one-twos, a speciality trained out from the previous batch of Arsenal players.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:57 pm
Posts: 1472
Location: Somewhere Over The Rainbow....
Aguero wrote:
Was thinking about this earlier and I think it may work.

Looking back at his Arsenal days, his finishing is very good, hes really composed on the ball even when hes got a bunch of players around him in the box. His control and touch is good and his passing is good, although not on Silva's level.

Also makes intelligent runs and has decent pace.

I don't think there's many strikers that are in the Aguero/Tevez mould of being able to drop deep as well as play as the last ST.

I think Nasri could though. This season he's played wide, played the Silva role, and played as a CM. He just doesn't have the vision or execution needed to do what David Silva does. That's why Fabregas was the main man when it came to being the playmaker/creator.

What he was better at though was finishing. I think it's worth a shot.

We don't need a Dzeko or a Balotelli type ST, what we need is more fluid players, 1 system where no matter who plays they will fit in.

It's worked for Barcelona, I see no reason why it can't work for us. We easily play the best football in the league, the Tevez / Aguero partnership showed how dominant this system can be with the right players.

Stop being so sensible man! You're opening up yourself for an attack by the 'let's get 2 Ashley Young / Antonio Valencia clones, get some width & whip the ball into the box for the big traditional No 9 to head it in' advocates!!! Lol

Just because we've had a bit of a lean spell, it doesn't mean that we should revert to the typical Rags/Spuds tactic of width, pace & workrate. If the last two matches have shown anything its that we need to believe in & stick to our footballing principles & utilise the skillful mobile players we have at our disposal & bring in more of the same.

As far as I'm concerned, if its good enough for Barca, its good enough for Manchester City. Tippy tappy football or the blood & snot variety? Gimme Aguero, Tevez, Silva & Nasri anyday.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:52 am
Posts: 227
Dribble wrote:
Aguero wrote:
Was thinking about this earlier and I think it may work.

Looking back at his Arsenal days, his finishing is very good, hes really composed on the ball even when hes got a bunch of players around him in the box. His control and touch is good and his passing is good, although not on Silva's level.

Also makes intelligent runs and has decent pace.

I don't think there's many strikers that are in the Aguero/Tevez mould of being able to drop deep as well as play as the last ST.

I think Nasri could though. This season he's played wide, played the Silva role, and played as a CM. He just doesn't have the vision or execution needed to do what David Silva does. That's why Fabregas was the main man when it came to being the playmaker/creator.

What he was better at though was finishing. I think it's worth a shot.

We don't need a Dzeko or a Balotelli type ST, what we need is more fluid players, 1 system where no matter who plays they will fit in.

It's worked for Barcelona, I see no reason why it can't work for us. We easily play the best football in the league, the Tevez / Aguero partnership showed how dominant this system can be with the right players.

Stop being so sensible man! You're opening up yourself for an attack by the 'let's get 2 Ashley Young / Antonio Valencia clones, get some width & whip the ball into the box for the big traditional No 9 to head it in' advocates!!! Lol

Just because we've had a bit of a lean spell, it doesn't mean that we should revert to the typical Rags/Spuds tactic of width, pace & workrate. If the last two matches have shown anything its that we need to believe in & stick to our footballing principles & utilise the skillful mobile players we have at our disposal & bring in more of the same.

As far as I'm concerned, if its good enough for Barca, its good enough for Manchester City. Tippy tappy football or the blood & snot variety? Gimme Aguero, Tevez, Silva & Nasri anyday.


I don't know how the rag fans enjoy how their team plays, it's such boring football, and I think against great sides they would get brushed aside. Just look at what Bilbao did to them and there not on Bayerns / Madrids level.

The way we were playing at the start of the season and like we are now it really is beautiful football, all the goals that we scored in that last match against Norwich were class. We do easily play the best football in the league when we are on form.

That one clip of where Neville was showing that simple through ball that Nasri could have done for Aguero just really made me realise that he is never going to be on David Silvas level with his passing or creativity, that was an easy pass all he had to do was play it into the space and he didn't. What I think he's better at though is finishing, Silva isn't really a finisher.

Look at the Spurs game at the run Nasri made and Silva slipped him through and bang he scored. The little guy against two big center backs. I do think he likes scoring goals, if he was played in a Aguero / Tevez position I think would bring out the best in him.

One of the reasons I bring this up is because when we play with Dzeko or Balotelli the performance goes down. I said before that I'm grateful for what both have done for us, but firstly in regards to Dzeko he's not the type of player we need.

Touch isn't good, for a big man he doesn't hold up the ball well, when he loses it he seems to get frustrated and his confidence goes down as a result. He needs things put on a plate for him, when he plays bad he really does play bad, not consistent enough. His size doesn't really help him play the way we do either. At the rags this guy would constantly be up there in the goal scoring charts.

With Balotelli when he plays on the wing he isn't good enough at dribbling past players and getting crosses in. You know most of the time he's going to cut inside and shoot. When he plays as the top striker again for all his size and strength he doesn't win many headers and again struggles sometimes to keep the ball, although does it better than Dzeko, and his pace give him a slight edge against Dzeko.

I've really though about Balotelli and I try to think of what does he bring to us, what is his quality? As much as I like the guy and really do hope he improves and develops into what he can be, currently he seems limited.

All in all both of them just lack the vision, creativity, work rate and class of Aguero and Tevez. That's why I think we should stick to only bringing in players that are very good all round, it doesn't matter about size. We don't need players like Cavani either, albeit he is class, he again is limited in what he can do.

Look at Barca, they've had Fabregas as well as Alexis Sanchez playing there, and both have done decent.

Fabregas was scoring so many goals when he was playing that fake 9 role for Barcelona. His finishing and pace is worse than Nasri, but his movement I think is around the same as Nasri. That's why I think it's at least worth a shot to try him there, Nasri should be able to do just as well if not better.

Theres not many strikers that can play like Aguero and Tevez, and we need to save some money in regards to FFP, so I think it's at least worth a try to give Nasri a shot there. I don't think he's a flop, and think he still has something to bring to our game, he can play a big part in it.

I just think when Nasri is forced to take players on or to be more direct or positive he will do better. Currently when he's on the wings or in Silva's role he won't really look to be the one to cut through open a defense through a pass or dribble.

Just saying before we go spending more money we should try this. Best thing that could result is he does very well, worst is that he won't and we'd be stuck like we are now hoping his vision and passing improves.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:06 pm
Posts: 213
lionheart wrote:
But don't we already have a couple of ideal players for the Tevez/Aguero role...namely Tevez and Aguero? What is the point of this thread I ask myself.


If its a pointless thread why comment ? Move onto a different thread?

Op has made a good point and worth a discussion. Not sure why people come
On forums if they are not offering a for or against
Argument.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2


All times are UTC [ DST ]


 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: BosnianSuperSnake, conormcfc, KingofDraw, ksf42001, mansour's tow ropes, NickGw2, NoahCity, noise, Sepehr, SingBlueSilva and 35 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  

© bluemoon-mcfc 2013 Produced by Ric Turner


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.105s | 11 Queries | GZIP : On ]