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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:45 pm 
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ONe of my all time favourite players, absolute class and could play that deep play maker role that we were crying out for last season at times. Think he'll do one year more at least.


He is n't really a Deep lying playmaker though, at his peak he was an energetic AM who was converted from Right Midfield and played on the left of the diamond for Milan. If he was to play in our team we would need runners in the team to cover for him, in some of the champions league games I have seen him in he was lost for pace and was forced to use his upper body strength in challenges because he just does n't have the energy to tackle anymore.

Edit; forget to mention if we are looking for a regista then we should go for a specialist rather than Seedorf who played in that role to account for his loss of pace and the loss of Pirlo (first to injury and then to Juve). Ever Banega would be a good option for that role.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:59 pm 
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Speaking to Sky Sports Italia, Seedorf weighed in on the discussion, claiming: "Looking back at his career, his agents and every move he has ever made, I think Tevez will go where they can promise him the most money."

The Rossoneri had appeared to be in pole position to snap up the striker, but that deal has fallen through, according to the latest reports, and Seedorf does not have high hopes that Tevez will join the club.

"Milan would be the first time in his life that he has chosen a club for his career rather than the money. We'll see what happens."


http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item721441/Seedorf:-Tevez-goes-where-the-money-is/


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:06 am 
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Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
borassic wrote:
ONe of my all time favourite players, absolute class and could play that deep play maker role that we were crying out for last season at times. Think he'll do one year more at least.


He is n't really a Deep lying playmaker though, at his peak he was an energetic AM who was converted from Right Midfield and played on the left of the diamond for Milan. If he was to play in our team we would need runners in the team to cover for him, in some of the champions league games I have seen him in he was lost for pace and was forced to use his upper body strength in challenges because he just does n't have the energy to tackle anymore.

Edit; forget to mention if we are looking for a regista then we should go for a specialist rather than Seedorf who played in that role to account for his loss of pace and the loss of Pirlo (first to injury and then to Juve). Ever Banega would be a good option for that role.


Never said he was a deep lying playmaker in his pomp but his range of passing, quick thinking and ability to create time on the ball could work well in our side as a deep lying playmaker next to some like de Jong for certain games. I wanted us to sign Pirlo last year and was laughed at by some people and he's been one of Juve's best players as they've won the title.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:13 am 
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Speaking to Sky Sports Italia, Seedorf weighed in on the discussion, claiming: "Looking back at his career, his agents and every move he has ever made, I think Tevez will go where they can promise him the most money."

The Rossoneri had appeared to be in pole position to snap up the striker, but that deal has fallen through, according to the latest reports, and Seedorf does not have high hopes that Tevez will join the club.

"Milan would be the first time in his life that he has chosen a club for his career rather than the money. We'll see what happens."


http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item721441/Seedorf:-Tevez-goes-where-the-money-is/



You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:19 am 
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Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
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Speaking to Sky Sports Italia, Seedorf weighed in on the discussion, claiming: "Looking back at his career, his agents and every move he has ever made, I think Tevez will go where they can promise him the most money."

The Rossoneri had appeared to be in pole position to snap up the striker, but that deal has fallen through, according to the latest reports, and Seedorf does not have high hopes that Tevez will join the club.

"Milan would be the first time in his life that he has chosen a club for his career rather than the money. We'll see what happens."


http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item721441/Seedorf:-Tevez-goes-where-the-money-is/



You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


He had a big dig at City, therefore he doesn't deserve to be here.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:31 am 
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borassic wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
borassic wrote:
ONe of my all time favourite players, absolute class and could play that deep play maker role that we were crying out for last season at times. Think he'll do one year more at least.


He is n't really a Deep lying playmaker though, at his peak he was an energetic AM who was converted from Right Midfield and played on the left of the diamond for Milan. If he was to play in our team we would need runners in the team to cover for him, in some of the champions league games I have seen him in he was lost for pace and was forced to use his upper body strength in challenges because he just does n't have the energy to tackle anymore.

Edit; forget to mention if we are looking for a regista then we should go for a specialist rather than Seedorf who played in that role to account for his loss of pace and the loss of Pirlo (first to injury and then to Juve). Ever Banega would be a good option for that role.


Never said he was a deep lying playmaker in his pomp but his range of passing, quick thinking and ability to create time on the ball could work well in our side as a deep lying playmaker next to some like de Jong for certain games. I wanted us to sign Pirlo last year and was laughed at by some people and he's been one of Juve's best players as they've won the title.


Pirlo's move has worked out yes, however he is covered in midfield by two energetic midfielders; Vidal and Marchisio and at Milan last season Seedorf played in a midfield that contained Nocerino, Boateng and Van Bommel i.e. he didn't have to put in the running or tackles, we would have to change our set up to accomodate him and have players like Barry, YaYa and Milner covering him and bench nasri and use Silva in the CAM role. Only Milner is suited to that role and why take Nasri out of the team and have YaYa playing a less prominent role those two players are of increasing rellevance where as Seedorf is the complete opposite when it comes to top level football.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:39 am 
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Tevez City wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
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You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


He had a big dig at City, therefore he doesn't deserve to be here.


That too of course, we have no doubt attracted a few mercs but players like adebayor and robinho are no longer here and lets hope Tevez learns the error of his ways because he will never have it this good at another club. Hate how he now appears as an ex-superstar pundit when he was hardly the star in any other the teams he played for.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:59 am 
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I'd have him for a season


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:41 am 
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Writing on the forum is easy that we are the champion and every young and rising star would want to be here, but who in the right mind will come and sit on the bench without guarantee the place in the starting 11 and will need to start behind Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Barry, DJ, Milner, Johnson and etc. for a season or two before establish himself in the new team?


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:49 am 
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Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
Tevez City wrote:
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Speaking to Sky Sports Italia, Seedorf weighed in on the discussion, claiming: "Looking back at his career, his agents and every move he has ever made, I think Tevez will go where they can promise him the most money."

The Rossoneri had appeared to be in pole position to snap up the striker, but that deal has fallen through, according to the latest reports, and Seedorf does not have high hopes that Tevez will join the club.

"Milan would be the first time in his life that he has chosen a club for his career rather than the money. We'll see what happens."


http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item721441/Seedorf:-Tevez-goes-where-the-money-is/



You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


Please. That article is 6 months old, and the speculation on a move to AC Milan is the subject. It isn't a dig, it's a fact. The same thing has been said many times about Tevez.

So if the question was, Clarence, do you think Tevez will sign? Then he answered honestly and fairly without any trace of hypocrisy, IMO.


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