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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:08 am 
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stony wrote:
If you've never really lost someone, you won't understand.



Who hasn't lost someone? Everyone has. That's part of the point that Davies was making -- albeit, in a completely retarded and insensitive way.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:57 am 
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JoeMercer'sWay wrote:
great point, terribly made.

I actually thought it was a great point made in a great way. Davies was spot on with this one.

The situation Chelsea have been put into by Liverpool is ridiculous. We all know that the Rags will play on their anniversary, so why can't Liverpool?

Imagine for a moment that the Bradford fire had happened on April 14 and they were scheduled to play the dippers in the semi-final. What would happen then?

If another team refused to play on a certain date due to a reason like the Bradford fire and it had a negative impact on Liverpool winning their sixth European Cup or, God forbid, their 19th title, the hypocritical fucking shitehawks at Anfield would be up in arms about it.

It was a terrible, terrible tragedy, no one is denying that. But life has to go on. That is the only possible way to approach these things, especially over two decades later. If everyone adopted the attitude of the dippers, we'd never play football ever again on any date because someone somewhere might be feeling too sad and reflective. It's pathetic. But then so is pretty much everything associated with that particular club.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:27 am 
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I agree with Davies, Man Utd and Rangers play on the anniversary of tragedies so why are the scousers an exception ?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:51 am 
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If they feel so strongly about it, would they be willing to forfeit the points/cup exit and also any other sanctions, whether points or financial, imposed for failing to play a scheduled fixture on that date?
If the FA/PL called their bluff and insisted they play on that date, would they stand by their 'principles'?
I doubt it somehow.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:06 am 
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The reason they don't play is that they hold a memorial service on that day that many players and staff attend. Obviously they couldn't do that if they're playing.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:14 am 
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JoeMercer'sWay wrote:
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They like a lot of fans are not blameless but 96 of them died that day and if a match has to be put back or forward a day i don't see why it can't.


so do you think anybody who's lost someone in a tragedy or whatever should be entitled to not go into work even 20 odd years after it happened because they can't move on, or don't want to as it gives them some relevance or meaning and keeps everybody on their side?

I have an immense dislike of how the Rags and the Dippers conduct themselves regarding their past tragedies.

I worry about people who think things that happen in football are worse than in the rest of life, because if people actually stepped back and looked at the bigger picture then maybe these tragedies would get the same attention as the thousands of others that people don't give the light of day to bother remembering about.
Fullt agree with every word.


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The reason they don't play is that they hold a memorial service on that day that many players and staff attend. Obviously they couldn't do that if they're playing.


they don't need to do it at Anfield, they could quite easily find somewhere in north london to go for a short service in the morning before the game.

There's 24 hours in a day.


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JoeMercer'sWay wrote:
Prestwich_Blue wrote:
The reason they don't play is that they hold a memorial service on that day that many players and staff attend. Obviously they couldn't do that if they're playing.


they don't need to do it at Anfield, they could quite easily find somewhere in north london to go for a short service in the morning before the game.

There's 24 hours in a day.

But what about all the people who lost friends and family who want to attend? If that's what Liverpool want to do then there's no reason why they shouldn't in my view. Doesn't hurt anyone (apart from that bitter gooner Davies).

In fact it's refreshing to see a club that puts its fans first, ahead of a mere football match.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:38 pm 
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Prestwich_Blue wrote:
JoeMercer'sWay wrote:
Prestwich_Blue wrote:
The reason they don't play is that they hold a memorial service on that day that many players and staff attend. Obviously they couldn't do that if they're playing.


they don't need to do it at Anfield, they could quite easily find somewhere in north london to go for a short service in the morning before the game.

There's 24 hours in a day.

But what about all the people who lost friends and family who want to attend? If that's what Liverpool want to do then there's no reason why they shouldn't in my view. Doesn't hurt anyone (apart from that bitter gooner Davies).

In fact it's refreshing to see a club that puts its fans first, ahead of a mere football match.


It's a club that puts themselves first, acts like they have a god given right to do what they want at the expense of other teams and everybody else, and they make sure they let everybody know about it.

They shouldn't get preferential treatment just because they want to be choosy over what tragedies they want to remember.

As I said before, it's giving football an elevated position in society where it doesn't belong.

Shouldn't Liverpool be such a loving, caring, family club that it's proclaiming to be whilst ignoring Heysel and supporting a racist and give the families of the 96 complimentary tickets to the semi-final on the quiet, and then they could attend a service in the morning in north London.

It's a poor excuse, and I really wish it had been held at Old Trafford because then they'd have absolutely no excuses.


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Prestwich_Blue wrote:
JoeMercer'sWay wrote:
Prestwich_Blue wrote:
The reason they don't play is that they hold a memorial service on that day that many players and staff attend. Obviously they couldn't do that if they're playing.


they don't need to do it at Anfield, they could quite easily find somewhere in north london to go for a short service in the morning before the game.

There's 24 hours in a day.

But what about all the people who lost friends and family who want to attend? If that's what Liverpool want to do then there's no reason why they shouldn't in my view. Doesn't hurt anyone (apart from that bitter gooner Davies).

In fact it's refreshing to see a club that puts its fans first, ahead of a mere football match.

Well they have hurt Chelsea's chances in the CL as they can't have an additional days rest. It stinks. If they wish to not play on that date, then fine. But they should concede the tie or 3 points. Let's see how resolute they are then.


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