oh yes get in there.

had a bet with a work colleague

england will get further than holland.

dutch fans are fuming already.....

Your last 3 post have been utter bullshit. Messi has carried world class players like Xavi and Iniesta in many games this season.

I was humouring you before.
Now I know you are plain stupid.

Agreed, but he wasn't on his own in that side. I don't think any Dutch player can say that he played anywhere near his potential. Had them down as dark horses for the tournament; huh! Nigel has been a fantastic player for us (even played a part in THAT goal), but he isn't international standard really. I said elsewhere that the Dutch always play as a bunch of individuals rather than a cohesive team unit (like the Germans for instance).

Although Messi edges it, only by a small head, Ronaldo is one of the greatest players of all time. He has everything. He is the complete attacking footballer. Pace, strength and sublime skill with a great range of passing and an eye for goal, he is a joy to watch.

Not to mention the incredible ability to fall over like he has just been scythed down by a kalashnikov when no opponent is even in the same postcode as him.

BS. Ronaldo has the likes of Ozil and Di Mario providing assists, Ozil set up many of his goals. Season before last Ronaldo got more goals set up by either Ozil or Di Maria, than Messi from Xavi/Iniesta. I really don't know how you got it into your head Granero and Diarra create Ronaldo's goals. Granero rarely plays, let alone starts, and isn't even a creative player! Same with Diarra.

Messi for me is head and shoulders above everyone at the moment. You say Ronaldo is a leader, Messi is the perfect team player, sets up and creates much more than Ronaldo, and contributes far more to the teams play. Ronaldo may be stronger, but the beauty of Messi is that he doesn't need to be a tank, because he's so good.

Nobody's perfect.

I honestly couldn't choose. I enjoy watching them both and I'd love to see how Messi would fare in our league.

He would have both legs broken in his first away game at Stoke.