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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:18 pm 
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Hello, i have coursework to be handed in tomorrow for English, and for it i have to make a speech about something important to me, obviously i could only think of city so i thought why not use video technology? i have 6 points to talk about...

1st. how it would improve the game
2nd. how it works
3rd. how its used in rugby
4th. maradona vs england, world cup incedent
5th. sheff utd match other week & list ofother incedents such as totenham vs utd, (roy carrol)
6th. counter arguments

i would also like to throw somehting about city it, can anybody help me with these points and basically give me some tips and usefull things to say?


Sorry I've only just come in from 5-a-side and seen this.

If it helps I wrote a passionate argument on this that was 'stolen'(let's say) by a particular journo that now works for MCFC!

Anyhoo...

My point was rather than simply using the Rugby method(where the game can stop repeatedly) use it in a tennis type method, where 2 'challenges' per team was allowed. Either Captain or manager could use it and if they were wrong, they would lose a 'challenge'. My thinking was that so many incidents happen they would have to be careful what they chose to use a 'challenge' for. If both teams ran out, then the ref ran the game to his discretion.

In reality, incidents like Adebayor's clash with van Persie would be inconclusive(also note the game had to be stopped, therefore allowing opportunity for the incident to be looked at) BUT would force the ref and 4th Official to make a decision there and then, avoiding the cop out with Clattenburg did with the FA. We would have had the decision in front of everyone, instead of the subsequent trial by media and no 'retrospective' video decisions by the FA.

As Sgoater says you could highlight certain incidents using this method and the ref can make the correct call, instead of fans feeling injustice at games all the time. It won't take away the feeling at times, but it would be much less than it is without video replay. I also wrote as Sgoater does about the clubs' future that hinges on silly unfathomable decisions that can ultimately send a club down. It's careers, income and history that can be affected.

It's not to the say the system wouldn't have initial teething problems, but that's why they are tried and tested in other 'less' important games of football, i.e., U-19/ Women's football etc.

Anyway, Sgoater beats me to my own thesis, but I was just relaying what I wrote about 18 months back.


I wrote this way back 2009. My original piece has long since disappeared into the Web's Netherworld...

Interestingly enough Sepp 'You're Havin' a Laff' Blatter has recently decided thus...
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Joseph S Blatter ‏@SeppBlatter
After last night’s match #GLT is no longer an alternative but a necessity.


Ha! After once saying...
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“Please do not insist on the technology, the day that the referee takes 2 captains aside to study monitors and see if something is inside the box or outside is the day the spectators will say no, we are not coming to the game.”


Now I know the idiot was taking things to the extreme, but surely as night follows day, VT will be extended to catch the things I said above... Eventually. It can't be helped as it is a natural progression.

So, people like CBlue, who argued him himself into the Stone Age will just have to get used to it just like you've gotten used to money coming into the game, to huge stadiums being built, to moving grounds, to us becoming Champs.

You may not understand it at first, but it will all feel pretty natural soon enough!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:43 pm 
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When England lose to dodgy decision, Blatter is not in favour of change, says he doesnt want goalline technology.
When England win from dodgy decision, Blatter is in favour of change, says he wants goalline technology.

Says all we already knew about this individual,


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Would there be any viability in reviewing during substitutions? I cannot see how play would be stopped in the middle of the match whilst during the run of play.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:21 pm 
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craigsteel wrote:
When England lose to dodgy decision, Blatter is not in favour of change, says he doesnt want goalline technology.
When England win from dodgy decision, Blatter is in favour of change, says he wants goalline technology.

Says all we already knew about this individual,

I was just thinking this ! How ironic


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:30 pm 
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If technology does come into the game which I hope it doesn't it should only be for the goal line. However this is where I have a problem lets say we put goal line technology in and a disputed goal is scored but it it came from a throw in which shouldn't have been given then people would be moaning about how more technology should be brought in to stop that, where would it end.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:16 am 
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alky313 wrote:
Would there be any viability in reviewing during substitutions? I cannot see how play would be stopped in the middle of the match whilst during the run of play.


If its only regarding goal decisions play stops anyway... Rugby and Rugby League have done this for some time now with great success and much more fair decisions have been made with little disruption to the game flow.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:50 am 
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Would it be at all possible to have a buzzer system like Ice Hockey where if the ball goes over the line it sounds off loudly. Though as I typed this i already thought of two problems, one the extra weight of a ball potentially carrying sensors (or if a defender/goalkeeper goes across the line at all if no sensors) and that someone would certainly get something into the ground which made the same noise.

The more I think about it the more I understand why the technology isn't being used.

bluesoup wrote:
craigsteel wrote:
When England lose to dodgy decision, Blatter is not in favour of change, says he doesnt want goalline technology.
When England win from dodgy decision, Blatter is in favour of change, says he wants goalline technology.

Says all we already knew about this individual,

I was just thinking this ! How ironic


Thats not ironic.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:54 am 
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MC ID wrote:
Would it be at all possible to have a buzzer system like Ice Hockey where if the ball goes over the line it sounds off loudly. Though as I typed this i already thought of two problems, one the extra weight of a ball potentially carrying sensors (or if a defender/goalkeeper goes across the line at all if no sensors) and that someone would certainly get something into the ground which made the same noise.

The more I think about it the more I understand why the technology isn't being used.


Unfortunately in ice hockey the buzzer is still activated by a guy in a little box behind each goal. Not automatic, so nothing we can take from that. Sin bins on the other hand...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:36 am 
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At some point they are going to have to cave in to video replays like rugby and cricket. If I was Bolton I'd be screaming blue murder about the barge on the keeper (foul) resulting in the goal on last day of the season. They've lost a minimum of £15m just by going down for one season - they could lose £50m if they don't bounce straight back up.

IMO I can't see it adding much time in 90% of cases (of course there will always be some) especially if it is limited only to goal and penalty situations and serious off-the-ball incidents if not spotted by the officials on the pitch (shreks elbow on that guy). A video ref passing judgement (and in radio contact with the ref) on offside/onside goals and penalty decisions would be ideal. Lets face it, 90% of the time the players surround the ref and the game stops for 2 minutes, either for a goal to be awarded or protesting a decision anyway.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:02 am 
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craigsteel wrote:
When England lose to dodgy decision, Blatter is not in favour of change, says he doesnt want goalline technology.
When England win from dodgy decision, Blatter is in favour of change, says he wants goalline technology.

Says all we already knew about this individual,


correct, i think its piss funny, he must be fucking livid that we got through. we would have gone through anyway but this way is much better.
its like the 93rd min goal by aguero all over again.


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