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Rascal wrote:
Thats a statement that suprises me.
Marx was a libertarian, Hitler was Authoritarian.
As it does me, my respect for GDM has plummeted. In fact, there's nothing left.
He was no Bakunin but he was a long way from authoritarian. Look at his enthusiasm for the Paris Commune and compare that to how the Communist (big C) countries turned out and there's a world of difference. Like Orwell after him, who also felt the brief explosion of excitement in something resembling the Paris Commune (revolutionary Catalonia), and I believe, like Orwell, he would have opposed the Communist regimes as a perversion of his ideals. I do not buy, that Marx, who despised the level of control exercised over us by a capitalist system, would endorse an even more authoritarian one. It is at odds with what we know as fact and what we can fairly speculate as well.
Orwell wrote:
Socialism means a classless society, or it means nothing at all. And it was here that those few months in the militia were valuable to me. For the Spanish militias, while they lasted, were a sort of microcosm of a classless society. In that community where no one was on the make, where there was a shortage of everything but no privilege and no bootlicking, one got, perhaps, a crude forecast of what the opening stages of socialism might be like. And, after all, instead of disillusioning me it deeply attracted me. The effect was to make my desire to see socialism established much more actual than it had been before.
I cannot find the exact quote I wanted from Orwell but the excitement of these two men as they separately experienced, for a very brief time, the society in which they forever wished to live, is very palpable, and they have in common that they were nothing like Communist China or the USSR, or North Korea etc.
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