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 Post subject: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:39 pm 
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Shocking story about a young black guy shot in the States. Shameful situation, and Obama (really don't like that guy) has just come out with a shite statement about it today (if Bush had been this late coming to a story he'd have been slaughtered). The article below is from The Guardian (it would be interesting to hear from Blues in the States on what exactly is going on about this story):

On the rainy night of Sunday 26 February, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin walked to a convenience store in Sanford, Florida. On his way home, with his Skittles and iced tea, the African-American teenager was shot and killed. The gunman, George Zimmerman, didn't run. He claimed that he killed the young man in self-defense. The Sanford Police agreed and let him go. Since then, witnesses have come forward, 911 emergency calls have been released, and outrage over the killing has gone global.

Trayvon Martin lived in Miami. He was visiting his father in Sanford, near Orlando, staying in the gated community known as "the Retreat at Twin Lakes", where Zimmerman volunteered with the neighborhood watch program. The Miami Herald reported that Zimmerman was a "habitual caller" to the police, making 46 calls since January 2011. He was out on his rounds as a self-appointed watchman, packing his concealed 9mm pistol, when he called 911:

"We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy … this guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something."

Later in the call, Zimmerman exclaims:

"OK. These assholes always get away … [Expletive], he's running."

Sounds of Zimmerman moving follow, along with a controversial utterance from Zimmerman, under his breath, considered by many to be "[Expletive] coons." The sound of his running prompted the 911 operator to ask, "Are you following him?" Zimmerman replied, "Yeah," to which the dispatcher said, "OK, we don't need you to do that."

One of the attorneys representing the Martin family, Jasmine Rand, told me:

"The term 'coon' on the audiotape … is a very obvious racial slur against African Americans. We also heard the neighbors come forward and say, 'Yeah, in this particular neighborhood, we look for young black males to be committing criminal activity.' And that's exactly what George Zimmerman did that night. He found a young black male that he did not recognize, assumed that he did not belong there, and he targeted him."

Another 911 call that has been released is from a woman who hears someone crying for help, then a gunshot.

Eyewitnesses Mary Cutcher and Selma Mora Lamilla both heard the cries, which police say could have been from Zimmerman, thus supporting his claim, even though he had a gun and outweighed Trayvon Martin by 80lb. Cutcher said at a press conference:

"I feel it was not self-defense, because I heard the crying. And if it was Zimmerman that was crying, Zimmerman would have continued crying after the shot went off. The only thing I saw that night – I heard the crying. We were in the kitchen. I heard the crying. It was a little boy. As soon as the gun went off, the crying stopped. Therefore, it tells me it was not Zimmerman crying."

Sanford police chief Bill Lee has defended his department's decision not to arrest Zimmerman. They bagged Martin's body and took it away, labeling him a "John Doe", even though they had his cellphone, which anyone, let alone law enforcement with a shooting victim, could have used to easily identify a person. They tested Martin's corpse for drugs and alcohol. Zimmerman was not tested. Neighbors say that Zimmerman loaded things into a U-Haul truck and left the area.

So, while the police and State Attorney Norm Wolfinger have defended their inaction, a democratic demand for justice has ricocheted around the country, prompting a US Justice Department investigation and leading Wolfinger to promise to convene a grand jury. The Rev Glenn Dames, pastor of St James AME Church in nearby Titusville, has called Martin's death "a modern-day lynching". His demand for the immediate arrest of Zimmerman was echoed by the organizers of the "Million Hoodie March" in New York City, named after the often racially stereotyped sweatshirt Martin was wearing in the rain when he was shot.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has called for the removal of Sanford police chief Lee. NAACP President Ben Jealous, recounting a mass meeting in a Sanford-area church Tuesday night, quoted a local resident who stood up and said:

"'If you kill a dog in this town, you'd be in jail the next day.' Trayvon Martin was killed four weeks ago, and his killer is still walking the streets."

With his gun.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:43 pm 
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Been following this for a while as I watch TYT on YouTube daily. Said it before and I'll say it again, the United States is a seriously fucked up country.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
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almost 20 years since the LA riots.does america need this again?


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:45 pm 
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Skashion wrote:
Been following this for a while as I watch TYT on YouTube daily. Said it before and I'll say it again, the United States is a seriously fucked up country.

I still can't believe the bit about labelling him a John Doe even though they had his phone! Fucking hell, watching all those Yank cop shows had made me think that they were a bit more savvy. Fuck me, it's 2012 and this sort of thing is still happening.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:53 pm 
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Doesnt mention in the article the 'stand your ground law' that is in effect in that part of Florida. Its this law that allowed that clown to shoot without recrimination (so far).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your ... ontroversy

Hopefully this daft fucking excuse for idiots to kill will be overturned sooner rather than later.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:02 pm 
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More will come of this. There is an online petition which now has over 1.5 million signatures demanding justice. Also Obama has asked for it to be looked at.

I think the pressure that is growing will mean that this can't be swept under the carpet.

It's fucked up that someone can shoot an unarmed 17 year old without even getting arrested. The US is a messed up country.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:12 pm 
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And some people think the police should be armed in this country. Fucking hell it would be an absolute nightmare.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:14 pm 
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Proof if any were needed that the right to bear arms being enshrined in the US constitution is quite frankly dangerous.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:20 pm 
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When it takes a man 5 minutes to negociate a doorway into the gunshop you have to question the wisdom of allowing said dumbass to own a firearm.

I have said it before and i will say it again. A simple test and background check would have nearly all guns out of the hands of the people unworthy of owning one.


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 Post subject: Re: Trayvon Martin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:04 am 
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If I were his family i'd hire a hitman or go out myself and kill the fucker, how the fuck they've let him go is unbelievable, the government over there are good at taking out their own on the down low, maybe they should continue the trend. This Zimmerman sounds like a horrible little twat (obviously) and the police labeling John Doe should be fired the *****.


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