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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:24 pm 
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Chris in London wrote:

I wonder what it is about these sets of fans that generates such bitterness? It is by no means universal - as you say there are some decent spurs fans (and gooners) who post on here. But it's a lot more prevalent among fans of those two teams than all others.


We've jumped the queue, at least that's how they see it. Arsenal fans are arrogant enough to think that their top 4 place and role as title contenders would carry on unchallenged forever.
Spurs were just getting their act together at the same time as we got our "lottery win"

To some extent I can understand why Spurs fans are pissed off at us, but by the same token they suck the business end of the collective rag cock on a daily basis. Which makes them massive hypocrites imo.

The Spurs fans on here are decent lads but the muppets on glory glory are a bunch of snot gobbling wankers. In a way I'm glad they hate us, because I've hated them since 81 and their hatred goes someway into justifying mine.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:56 pm 
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It's always harsh when people paint every fan with the same brush.

Glory Glory or Talksport isn't any reflection on most fans. Just like when this forum has a loss there is a lot of hysteria and daft threads about wanting to sack Mancini and that Dzeko is crap. Most fans have some common sense.

People will always mention money but unfortunately that is the future of football. It's all well and good balancing the books but that won't win you any silverware at all

I think Levy is trying desperately hard to get funding for the new stadium, yet wants champions league football without breaking the bank. It's fine line stuff really and a risk we could fall back into mid-table mediocrity for another twenty years if a wrong transfer is made.

I don't think I've ever heard anti City remarks at The Lane or any City chants, people are too obsessed with hating Chelsea, Arsenal and West Ham. City aren't even on the radar. I don't think that would be the same at The Emirates however, they seem to hate City with their silly banners about 'money can't buy class'. I don't think they get that they were paying double the wages of most clubs for the past 15 years.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:05 pm 
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Spurs' offer of unpaid PA position is a unjustifiable disgrace, says TUC
Tottenham Hotspur have been accused of ‘penny-pinching’ after advertising for an intern to work unpaid at the club for a year.


Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/900119-spur ... z1vyMWq7oY


Bosses at the Premier League club, which has almost £300million in assets, are looking for a graduate to work in the press office – but are only prepared to pay expenses.
TUC treasurer Mick Gosling said there was ‘no way’ the internship was acceptable when unemployment was so high.
‘The top stars are getting salaries of tens of thousands of pounds a week – how can this be justified,’ he said.
‘These young people have struggled to make a career for themselves – they go to college and are then faced with this Hobson’s choice of working for nothing and getting nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.’
The job, based at the club’s training ground in Enfield, north London, involves hosting the media on match days, monitoring news broadcasts, organising interviews, office admin and writing content for the club’s website.
Spurs said although it was not offering a salary, the successful candidate would be paid expenses.
The work experience offered a ‘unique opportunity for a young person to learn valuable skills that will provide a platform for future employment either within the club or elsewhere in the industry’, a spokesman added.



Tight bastards!


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:49 pm 
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It's all our fault that Spurs failed to qualify for Europe, or more specifically Balo's fault, at least according to this fella.

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I still remember City fans arguing that he was just finding his balance. That stamp effectively won City the title and took CL football away from us.


I wonder if 'arry will adopt this as his official line. He likes a good excuse does 'arry.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:55 pm 
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Crouchinho wrote:
People will always mention money but unfortunately that is the future of football. It's all well and good balancing the books but that won't win you any silverware at all.


It has always been about money since the game was invented. Football fans today need to learn the history of football. The team that has always won trophies has spent a lot of money.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:02 pm 
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WNRH wrote:
Crouchinho wrote:
People will always mention money but unfortunately that is the future of football. It's all well and good balancing the books but that won't win you any silverware at all.


It has always been about money since the game was invented. Football fans today need to learn the history of football. The team that has always won trophies has spent a lot of money.


I agree a lot, Clough could always get the best players with a wad of cash. Same with Pool when they dominated.

United took advantage of worldwide merchandise when the premier league started so they got a huge head start.

Although Spurs and Arsenal fans think it's good to balance the books it will never win much silverware. At least I don't think so


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:09 pm 
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Crouchinho wrote:
WNRH wrote:
Crouchinho wrote:
People will always mention money but unfortunately that is the future of football. It's all well and good balancing the books but that won't win you any silverware at all.


It has always been about money since the game was invented. Football fans today need to learn the history of football. The team that has always won trophies has spent a lot of money.


I agree a lot, Clough could always get the best players with a wad of cash. Same with Pool when they dominated.

United took advantage of worldwide merchandise when the premier league started so they got a huge head start.

Although Spurs and Arsenal fans think it's good to balance the books it will never win much silverware. At least I don't think so


You can either do it the Spurs and Arsenal way and be patient and hope that the players are ultra loyal and not get jealous of lesser players winning the big trophies whilst they continue to be nearly men and then have to sell Fabregas, Nasri, Bale, Modric and then try and find similar players are start again.

or you can do a Chelsea and City are spend big to get success then try to balance the books years after.

I actually think that you lot missing out on CL football next season is the biggest blow you have had in your recent history. CL football could have attracted some big players and kept the likes of VDV, Bale and Modric happy and you would have had a solid base for a proper title challenge.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:24 pm 
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Fans say they want a 'level playing field' but they don't. They really, really don't. A level playing field would give Wigan exactly the same revenue as United.

What people mean when they say this is they liked the hierarchy the way it was. City smashed that hierarchy to bits, and it makes most people uncomfortable. Especially those who were previously a little bit closer to the top than they are right now.

The English love traditional hierarchies. Almost worship them. That's one of our biggest failures as a nation and why we struggle to progress in the modern world.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:39 pm 
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BrianW wrote:
Fans say they want a 'level playing field' but they don't. They really, really don't. A level playing field would give Wigan exactly the same revenue as United.

What people mean when they say this is they liked the hierarchy the way it was.


This is so true. If you suggested a Major League Baseball pooling of commercial income in the Premier League (although it does admittedly happen to some extent with the TV revenue) the biggest howl of protests would be from united and their fans. They complain about how unfair Mansour's largesse is, and what they mean by that is how "unfair" it is to them, rather than football in general.

They were instrumental in creating a system that was skewed to ensure that they remained at the top in an endless cycle of self-perpetuating wealth and power. This system was designed with the express purpose of keeping them at the top at the expense of clubs like City.

They are the last people in football who have a right to pontificate about what is "fair".


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:20 pm 
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redmizzle wrote:
Spurs' offer of unpaid PA position is a unjustifiable disgrace, says TUC
Tottenham Hotspur have been accused of ‘penny-pinching’ after advertising for an intern to work unpaid at the club for a year.


Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/900119-spur ... z1vyMWq7oY


Bosses at the Premier League club, which has almost £300million in assets, are looking for a graduate to work in the press office – but are only prepared to pay expenses.
TUC treasurer Mick Gosling said there was ‘no way’ the internship was acceptable when unemployment was so high.
‘The top stars are getting salaries of tens of thousands of pounds a week – how can this be justified,’ he said.
‘These young people have struggled to make a career for themselves – they go to college and are then faced with this Hobson’s choice of working for nothing and getting nothing. This is an absolute disgrace.’
The job, based at the club’s training ground in Enfield, north London, involves hosting the media on match days, monitoring news broadcasts, organising interviews, office admin and writing content for the club’s website.
Spurs said although it was not offering a salary, the successful candidate would be paid expenses.
The work experience offered a ‘unique opportunity for a young person to learn valuable skills that will provide a platform for future employment either within the club or elsewhere in the industry’, a spokesman added.



Tight bastards!


And they wonder why so many were happy at their misfortune. How many millions did Levy get in bonuses the last 3 years? Very shameful that they won't even pay a minimal wage.

I really hope we don't sell Ade to them, make them go pay a real fee for a striker.


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