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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:54 am 
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Tevez City wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
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You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


He had a big dig at City, therefore he doesn't deserve to be here.

Looks like more of a dig at Tevez who is a mercenary and no matter what he helps us win I will never forgive him for what he did.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:28 am 
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prairiemoon wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
Tevez City wrote:



You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


Please. That article is 6 months old, and the speculation on a move to AC Milan is the subject. It isn't a dig, it's a fact. The same thing has been said many times about Tevez.

So if the question was, Clarence, do you think Tevez will sign? Then he answered honestly and fairly without any trace of hypocrisy, IMO.


The same thing has been said about Tevez many times however to portray Tevez as being solely motivated by money and have a dig at him for that is hypocrisy when at least one of Seedorf's transfers points to similar behaviour; why leave a club who had just won the Champions league for a club that was bankrolled to success (nothing wrong with that) but who had declined since that success if it was n't for money. Just to Back up my view, Sampdoria finished 8th in the season prior to him joining and in the season he was there, both times over 20 points or more off the winners. He was a good player no doubt but I dont like him, you said he was honest, well he could have yes I think he will sign or No he won't there was no need to aim a dig at Tevez or the club. I also think that the nice guy persona he portrays is just that; a persona .

He comes out with some rubbish like he was a part of Holland getting to the World Cup Final, no Clarence you were past it and not in the squad, does n't matter what happened in the qualifiers; if England win the Euros do we all have to thank Jack Wilshire or Adam Johnson. The tournament is played out and won in the tournament, if you are not in the squad of 23 you are not part of any success or failure at the tournament, simple as that

Edit: just seen on Wikipedia that his last international was in 2008 so I don't know why he believes he had any role in Holland's WC success; he fell out with Van Basten and was n't used because of the latters prefernce for younger players and did n't feature for the Oranje again; he has been over the hill a long time ago.

Rino Gattuso was a good DM in his Day, okay he has had vison problems in his left eye but I'm sure If we give him an eye patch and palm him off as a pirate, players have been described as buccaneering before how about just a buccaneer. No he has joined a lower level club like FC Sion as veteran on a last pay day the same scenario Seedorf would be looking at.

P.S. If you are reading Mr Gattuso, I don't intend any offence about your eyesight issues, just making a lighthearted joke and not laughing at your expense.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:27 am 
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taconinja wrote:
Tevez City wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:


You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


He had a big dig at City, therefore he doesn't deserve to be here.

Looks like more of a dig at Tevez who is a mercenary and no matter what he helps us win I will never forgive him for what he did.


It was clear dig at every world class player who joined City of being a mercenary.

As simple as that.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:46 am 
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Tevez City wrote:
taconinja wrote:
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He had a big dig at City, therefore he doesn't deserve to be here.

Looks like more of a dig at Tevez who is a mercenary and no matter what he helps us win I will never forgive him for what he did.


It was clear dig at every world class player who joined City of being a mercenary.

As simple as that.

Nope. Not to me. Don't care if Tevez is criticized for one moment. Brought everything on himself and he can rot in it. If anyone doesn't deserve to be here, it's that louse.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:53 pm 
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bluethai wrote:
Writing on the forum is easy that we are the champion and every young and rising star would want to be here, but who in the right mind will come and sit on the bench without guarantee the place in the starting 11 and will need to start behind Yaya, Silva, Nasri, Barry, DJ, Milner, Johnson and etc. for a season or two before establish himself in the new team?


Well why don't we sign players that are to replace the likes of Barry and Milner? I've got nothing against either of them and I genuinely think that they are top drawer players but if there's better options out there then surely we should sign them and make these 2 your squad players?

Same goes for anyone in our 1st team. We need to keep evolving, keep investing in the first team and not the squad.

I don't buy into buying players just to sit on the bench.

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taconinja wrote:
Tevez City wrote:
taconinja wrote:
Looks like more of a dig at Tevez who is a mercenary and no matter what he helps us win I will never forgive him for what he did.


It was clear dig at every world class player who joined City of being a mercenary.

As simple as that.

Nope. Not to me. Don't care if Tevez is criticized for one moment. Brought everything on himself and he can rot in it. If anyone doesn't deserve to be here, it's that louse.


He will take it on the chin no doubt but one thing is that we can't deny Tevez is that when he finally came back into the squad he showed a team mentality and helped us win the league.

For that, I personally am very grateful!!


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:03 pm 
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Tevez City wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
Tevez City wrote:



You 're right he is a hypocrite; he left a champions league winning Ajax for sampdoria who were already on the decline after Paolo Mantovani's death and left a year earlier for Real Madrid. In short he is wrong to criticise players for being mercenaries and I think his long stay at Milan had alot to do with Carlo Ancellotti's long tenure and use of the same 4-3-1-2 formation for most of that time.


He had a big dig at City, therefore he doesn't deserve to be here.


Quote:
'I really believe if you are a player who thinks only about money then you could end up at Manchester City.


Clichy wrote that in 2009.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
P.S. If you are reading Mr Gattuso, I don't intend any offence about your eyesight issues, just making a lighthearted joke and not laughing at your expense.


Lol, Wtf?


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:05 pm 
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Seosa wrote:
Rocket-footed kolarov wrote:
P.S. If you are reading Mr Gattuso, I don't intend any offence about your eyesight issues, just making a lighthearted joke and not laughing at your expense.


Lol, Wtf?


Ha Ha, was intended to prevent a backlash from any who might have been offended.
I thought it was thinly veiled myself, as I said I was n't making fun of someone's ill health or disability and did n't want anybody getting touchy and thinking I did. I obviously don't think Gattuso reads the forum.


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 Post subject: Re: Clarence Seedorf?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:17 pm 
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johnwood21 wrote:

This post is great - only to be let down by the last paragraph.

Clarence Seedorf has been an exceptional player over the course of his long career, and to have spent 10 years at AC Milan is outstanding. I think it's disrespctful for anyone to compare him to a used car.

MCFC no longer require a player like Seedorf as we've moved on - but let's show respect where it's deserved.

Personally I hope he retires, and doesn't do anything to tarnish a fine reputation.


I think you are reaching when you assume that I am being disrespectful to a player whose career and profile reflect the type of player that we are trying to attract to our club. I was not comparing him to a used car, but rather using an analogy. We don't need to subsidise someone's pension, when they have and will do nought for us. We need someone to come in to do a job. Using your logic, everyone that would come to us would be considered a used car, even if they were an 18 year old youth player from another club. However, I do thank your contribution and for indirectly referring to me as a disrespectful glory hunting bastard. I'll try to be a bit more civil next time, and think twice before posting an educated comment on a forum board from my ivory tower.


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