The saddest part is that this is the main place people get their football opinions from in this country, morons like Merson, Savage et al on the TV, radio and in the papers. then they wonder why English managers are shit, possibly it's because the level of debate about football in this country is so very low. People say "oh it's only entertainment, you're not supposed to take him seriously", fine, where is the program where people who actually have a clue discuss football properly then? There are some decent podcasts and websites that actually try and analyse the game properly, but it's completely absent from the mainstream soap opera media and it's surely to the detriment of the national game