And whose fault is that?
You are stating you get the square root of fuck all from Westminster. Probably true, the question of why that happens might be an area your angst should be directed to.
You might as a region think it's right and to take it up the arse without a fight, we don't.
If you are having such a shit deal why don't you get off your knees and fight? To criticise us for taking them on is laughable.
We might not win, but at least we fight. Your area will continue to be shafted until the anger spouted on here about how badly you are treated turns into action.
Nobody at Westminster is going to give you additional power unless you fight for it.
Don't blame us for fighting for what we believe.
Fighting and losing is still better than taking it up the arse.
Until the day you stand up and start throwing punches you will continue to be looked over.
We have powers now that nobody wanted to give us because we fought.
You should try it instead of just moaning about how terrible you are treated. Take the cunts on.
Not a single person in this wonderful country gets a bad deal, certainly not in Scotland.
I come from a working class background in the north west of England, didn't even go to university and have nothing to complain about. I have every opportunity to succeed and if I lost my job today they'd be plenty available.
You seem to be in the minority on here regarding how the north west is treated.
We disagree on how we want our future to be. But surely we all have a right to a say in that? Tory rule forever will never provide that to us and therefore many feel to go is the only solution.
If labour are to get in they too will be Tory looking. That's not enough. I was a Labour Party member. Most people who support a yes vote are ex labour voters.
May is saying all the right things at the moment so let's see how she does after Brexit. Like Labour, the Tories can and will fluctuate with their stance.
Talking for myself I just want the opportunity to succeed and we have that in abundance in the UK.
Yes London and parts of the south have always been better off but I think it's changing.
I work in recruitment as a generalist,all over the UK and across several sectors so I've seen salaries and opportunities change in regions.
The salary difference in London compared to the rest of the UK is getting smaller, it's now about making sure there's a good proportionate amount of positions in other regions.
And yet apparently its a myth about the anti english stance. Salmond is well known for his views on the english and he still runs the snp. This is the bigotry and racism that nobody mentions but its so prevailent up here. The more the snp come to the fore, the more it reveals itself. May has played a blinder here tbf,she has utterly humiliated the snp and shut them up.It's shocking. It's the great British bigotry that gets left unsaid. The fact it's children as well shows him to be what he really is- the fat fucking ****
Whilst I think Scottish calls for independence are either misinformed, dishonourable, cowardly or traitorous in their various levels of support, that was an awful post to read Damocles. That kind of antagonistic attitude is what drives the Scots/English hatred bollocks that stokes the myth of it being a grand scale thing and also the SNP's support.You have powers because a Labour Government wanted to secure your vote long term and didn't anticipate the Scots would sell them out to the SNP.
Take your William Wallace crap and shove it right up the fantasy arsehole you seem to be spouting from.
You've fought for nothing. You will get nothing from the Government because they no longer have a reason to give it to you. You were a pawn in a game and now you no longer have any strategic advantage to either side so you'll sit there and be told "now is not the time" for the next 100 years while you continue to live in your fantasy world about how heroic you are all.
Your "referendum", as much as you bleat on about it, was the result of a power brokerage in Westminster and nothing else. You have little to no power, little to no say and little to no impact. You're the same barbarians at the gates you've been for a thousand years and you'll still be shouting for freedom when the English patronisingly smile at you, pat you on the head and say "yeah, soon lads". Theresa May embarrassed your entire party in Parliament the other day, literally bouncing non-answers to them for an hour while they sat there in London becoming enraged, as their complete impotence began to increasingly dawn on them.
You march to our drum and you will do so until it's politically advantageous for us to change that. You might think yourselves an Ace in the hole that is more valuable than the other "cards" and that's probably true. But we're the ones playing the cards. And there's nothing you can do about it, nothing that all of your yellow band of MPs nor your puppet Parliament we graciously allowed you to entertain yourselves with, nothing that all of the Twitter polls in the world will do to change your position.
You talk about how you "fight to not get shafted". You're not even allowed to vote on your own policies unless we tell you it's ok. Your entire nationalist movement is quite frankly a joke, something to keep you busy and feel like you're achieving something while the real power in Westminster continues to operate. Scottish devolution is a rattle and just because the baby shakes it a lot and makes a lot of noise doesn't mean it gets ice cream for dinner.
Whilst I think Scottish calls for independence are either misinformed, dishonourable, cowardly or traitorous in their various levels of support, that was an awful post to read Damocles. That kind of antagonistic attitude is what drives the Scots/English hatred bollocks that stokes the myth of it being a grand scale thing and also the SNP's support.
Either way Sturgeon needs to be put down a dozen pegs pretending to be on a level footing with May demanding "Scotland's voice" be listened to in Brexit talks with the EU - her voice is completely and utterly irrelevant regarding the U.K's international matters. Scotland's only legal right to a say is as much as any other region's as far as I'm aware.Bollocks. He tried to give it the William Wallace routine and was shut down. Maybe in future instead of coming onto MANCHESTER City forum giving it out about Northern England "takes it up the arse", he can put down his sixth can of Tennants for the night, pull his skirt out of his arse and do a bit of Googling.
And absolutely nothing that I've said was false. The independence referendum WAS given for political capital reasons in England and is roundly being ignored for the same reasons.
Sturgeon has requested another referendum. Just give it to her but give the vote to all of the uk populace. I know one person in England out of many who thinks it would be a sad day if the Scots went their own way.
But to be fair we hear so much bluster from the SNP but they are not 'Scotland' - there will likely be a majority voting against independence when 'their time' comes to have another vote.
But their time is not now, next year or anytime before 2021, perhaps not even then - the UK has other - far more important - priorities.
I think that May should just simply announce that the Tory party will schedule an Indyref2 for some future time 2021 or beyond. By then we will have left the EU and I would be surprised if there was a 30% vote in Scotland for independence at that point - because they certainly will not have a guarantee of EU accession.
There is simply too much pandering and too much airtime being given to Sturgeon
I think it will be a sad day if Scotland decides to split the UK apart if I'm honest, I have a lot more in common with the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish than any European. But if the majority of Scots think their future is with a German dominated continent then good luck to them, thanks for the last 300 years and a lift in our major conflicts over that time.Sturgeon has requested another referendum. Just give it to her but give the vote to all of the uk populace. I know just one person in England out of many who thinks it would be a sad day if the Scots went their own way.
And whose fault is that?
You are stating you get the square root of fuck all from Westminster. Probably true, the question of why that happens might be an area your angst should be directed to.
You might as a region think it's right and to take it up the arse without a fight, we don't.
If you are having such a shit deal why don't you get off your knees and fight? To criticise us for taking them on is laughable.
We might not win, but at least we fight. Your area will continue to be shafted until the anger spouted on here about how badly you are treated turns into action.
Nobody at Westminster is going to give you additional power unless you fight for it.
Don't blame us for fighting for what we believe.
Fighting and losing is still better than taking it up the arse.
Until the day you stand up and start throwing punches you will continue to be looked over.
We have powers now that nobody wanted to give us because we fought.
You should try it instead of just moaning about how terrible you are treated. Take the cunts on.
I was at Portsoy Boat Festival up on the NE coast a number of years ago, and Salmond was there doing some Civic duty (kissing babies probably). I couldn't believe the look of utter disdain he gave me when he heard my kids English accents. It was the look of someone who'd just stood in cat shit whilst wearing open toe'd sandals. I though I was imagining it at first, but my mate (who is Scottish incidentally) noticed it too, and he was shocked.
Bollocks. He tried to give it the William Wallace routine and was shut down. Maybe in future instead of coming onto MANCHESTER City forum giving it out about Northern England "takes it up the arse", he can put down his sixth can of Tennants for the night, pull his skirt out of his arse and do a bit of Googling.
And absolutely nothing that I've said was false. The independence referendum WAS given for political capital reasons in England and is roundly being ignored for the same reasons.
Sturgeon has requested another referendum. Just give it to her but give the vote to all of the uk populace. I know just one person in England out of many who thinks it would be a sad day if the Scots went their own way.
Are you telling me that magicpole isnt a City fan lol?
But to be fair we hear so much bluster from the SNP but they are not 'Scotland' - there will likely be a majority voting against independence when 'their time' comes to have another vote.
But their time is not now, next year or anytime before 2021, perhaps not even then - the UK has other - far more important - priorities.
I think that May should just simply announce that the Tory party will schedule an Indyref2 for some future time 2021 or beyond. By then we will have left the EU and I would be surprised if there was a 30% vote in Scotland for independence at that point - because they certainly will not have a guarantee of EU accession.
There is simply too much pandering and too much airtime being given to Sturgeon
Celtic fan.