General Election June 8th

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

But surely if a Conservative victory would indeed be so bad there should be a massive turnout by motivated Remainers and supporters of the other parties.

To vote for who? The 3(?) mainstream parties and the SNP, are all being led by people who voted remain! Conviction is missing from each and everyone of them. We have a PM who sounded reasonable when 'reluctantly' accepting the crown, who is calling an election she promised she wouldn't call, to be played out as some sort of quasi affirmation of the referendum, without telling anyone what her position is going to be. You call it not showing your hand but it smacks of naked political ambition from the reluctant leader.

 

[mayo31]

No wonder I just get pissed on a weekend as all this fucks me off.

When may gets in with her better majority this country is finished. Brexit will be a dogs dinner. Everything will be sold off. We will still be aa skint as they keep telling us.

I will do all I can to get my kids to see this and get out of here or do what I should have done and just played it for the money. That's the only way anyone gets on.

 

[jonmcity]

Has any party actually give us what their policies are yet?

 

[Blue Til Death]

No wonder I just get pissed on a weekend as all this fucks me off.

When may gets in with her better majority this country is finished. Brexit will be a dogs dinner. Everything will be sold off. We will still be aa skint as they keep telling us.

I will do all I can to get my kids to see this and get out of here or do what I should have done and just played it for the money. That's the only way anyone gets on.

Either you were pissed as a rat when you penned this, or you just fell over with a huge bag of scrabble letters in your hand...... Made me smile though, I like mad people...!

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

To vote for who? The 3(?) mainstream parties and the SNP, are all being led by people who voted remain! Conviction is missing from each and everyone of them. We have a PM who sounded reasonable when 'reluctantly' accepting the crown, who is calling an election she promised she wouldn't call, to be played out as some sort of quasi affirmation of the referendum, without telling anyone what her position is going to be. You call it not showing your hand but it smacks of naked political ambition from the reluctant leader.

Give her chance it was only announced yesterday, I am sure all the parties will produce manifestos and set out their policies in due course and you can vote read and vote accordingly as per normal.

 

[Zubrman]

 

[Tuearts right boot]

She walked past me while I was in my van last week. No lippy and sensible shoes.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Why are ukip voters idiots?

How long have you got? Why would anyone vote for UKIP now?

 

[stonerblue]

I wouldn't know about that but to say that your post was xenophobic does a disservice to the term.

xenophobia
zɛnəˈfəʊbɪə/
noun

1. dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
   "racism and xenophobia are steadily growing in Europe"
   synonyms: racism, racialism, racial hatred, ethnocentrism, ethnocentricity; If you think her original post wasn't dripping with hate for the Scots then i suggest you read it again.

 

[Vic]

I struggle with the point that we may be closer to a world war than at any time in the last 50 years and we are going to have a government distracted with a general election.

Will they cancel the election if there's a nuclear war? It's a toss-up for me: am I more worried about Korea or five more years of this heartless government?

Haha. Ok. I don't think we will agree.

:-)

You should have asked a more precise question.

5 more years makes me 68. I'll have my feet up somewhere. They can vote who the fuck they like after that :)

Chances are it won't be in a decent care home if the present cuts continue.

I'd imagine non-Labour voters (who Labour would need to persuade) would view them refusing to fight a general election as a massive lack of balls. It's an admission that they don't think they can win, so why should the public vote for them to win?

The public couldn't vote for them if there's no election. I'd have said no - you made the 5-year Parliament law, you've got a majority, bog off.

 

[jimharri]

Probably already been posted, but If you think I'm trawling through 50 odd pages to check, fuck that for a game of soldiers......

 

[SWP's back]

xenophobia
zɛnəˈfəʊbɪə/
noun

1. dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
   "racism and xenophobia are steadily growing in Europe"
   synonyms: racism, racialism, racial hatred, ethnocentrism, ethnocentricity; If you think her original post wasn't dripping with hate for the Scots then i suggest you read it again.

xenophobianoun [ U ]
UK /ˌzen.əˈfəʊ.bi.ə/ US /ˌzen.əˈfoʊ.bi.ə/
extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs, theirreligions, etc.

So two things Stoner, one is that xenophobia relates to all foreigners. Second is that the Scottish are foreigners but British and have the same passports.

Would a scouser that hates Mancunians be xenophobic?

 

[stonerblue]

xenophobianoun [ U ]
UK /ˌzen.əˈfəʊ.bi.ə/ US /ˌzen.əˈfoʊ.bi.ə/
extreme dislike or fear of foreigners, their customs, theirreligions, etc.

So two things Stoner, one is that xenophobia relates to all foreigners. Second is that the Scottish are foreigners but British and have the same passports.

Would a scouser that hates Mancunians be xenophobic?

Not sure what your first point is.
I'm pretty sure, given the content of his post, that he sees Scotland as a country.

 

[Vic]

Is it really only 1 in 10 that pass?

It's 1 in 4 in Kent, 1 in 3 in Trafford.
But Manchester has over 30 secondary schools. How do you suddenly get 10 new grammar schools? Who decides which become grammars? Can they all decide to go selective (no LA control of academies)? How much to build new schools? (Unnecessary free schools all over the place, with secret budgets - try a FoI request to find out how much per-pupil they get...)
So different chance of getting in a grammar school depending on where you live, how many other bright pupils they are in your particular year (you'd pass 11 plus one year, but "fail" the next), and whether you can afford the private tutor (or the prep school).

“At political meetings at the end of the 1960s, Edward Boyle [Minster of Education from 1962 to 1964] was torn limb from limb by conservative voters, infuriated that their children who had ‘failed’ the eleven-plus were being sent to secondary moderns, along with 70-80% of each age group. They had regarded the grammars as ‘their schools’. The eleven-plus, they said, lost them the 1964 election and would lose them every one until it was abolished. Margaret Thatcher recognised this as has every Tory party in practice ever since.” (Simon Jenkins, 2007)

 

[xgorton]

No live tv debates,May you are a coward Jeremy would rip you apart.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

No live tv debates,May you are a coward Jeremy would rip you apart.

Sadly she holds all the cards and will walk it, there's no way she'll give a sucker an even break and risk anything.

 

[xgorton]

Sadly she holds all the cards and will walk it, there's no way she'll give a sucker an even break and risk anything.

Typical Tory, just like that Hopkins woman.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Typical Tory c#nt Just like that Hopkins woman.

Yep.

I do agree with getting the fuck out of Europe and thinks she needs a clean run at it otherwise it'll be a fucking dogs dinner but I'm in a safe Labour seat and I ain't going to vote for her.

 

[SWP's back]

Not sure what your first point is.
I'm pretty sure, given the content of his post, that he sees Scotland as a country.

Xenophobia is an irrational fear or hatred of all foreigners. One can love the French but hate the Germans. Or love the Welsh but hate the Americans. That doesn't make a person xenophobic.

Nor would a Spaniard disliking Catalans, which is similar to the case in point. He may consider a separate country, but he would not be correct.

 

[SWP's back]

It's 1 in 4 in Kent, 1 in 3 in Trafford.
But Manchester has over 30 secondary schools. How do you suddenly get 10 new grammar schools? Who decides which become grammars? Can they all decide to go selective (no LA control of academies)? How much to build new schools? (Unnecessary free schools all over the place, with secret budgets - try a FoI request to find out how much per-pupil they get...)
So different chance of getting in a grammar school depending on where you live, how many other bright pupils they are in your particular year (you'd pass 11 plus one year, but "fail" the next), and whether you can afford the private tutor (or the prep school).

“At political meetings at the end of the 1960s, Edward Boyle [Minster of Education from 1962 to 1964] was torn limb from limb by conservative voters, infuriated that their children who had ‘failed’ the eleven-plus were being sent to secondary moderns, along with 70-80% of each age group. They had regarded the grammars as ‘their schools’. The eleven-plus, they said, lost them the 1964 election and would lose them every one until it was abolished. Margaret Thatcher recognised this as has every Tory party in practice ever since.” (Simon Jenkins, 2007)

Very interesting cheers.

Could you also tolerate my ignorance and answer as to how some Grammar schools still exist? I've never understood that.