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avoidconfusion said:
Lack of a real DMF/CMF troubles me.
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I am enclined to agree, but that's only because my conventional brain has been conditioned to accept round pegs in round holes?

Conte deserves a lot of credit somehow taking Victor Moses and turning him in to a wing back.

Our pressing from the front would be insane, and effectively add to the midfield?

When I look at the line-up I posted, you could argue....there are a lot more fits than I first assumed, in terms of Pep making the formation work?


OTAMENDI - FECK KNOWS
STONES - PIQUE
BONUCCI - PUYOL
STERLING - DANI ALVES
SANE - JORDI ALBA
SILVA - INIESTA
DE BRUYNE - BUSQUETS (I KNOW, A STRETCH)
SANCHEZ - MESSI
MBAPPE - SUAREZ
JESUS - NEYMAR
 
domalino said:
I think you lot are are all crazy if you think Pep "midfielders are the most important players in football" would play a team with just KDB and Silva as midfielders.
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I think Pep would class Sane & Sterling as midfielders. I think he'd probably class Sanchez as one too. But yeah, I do think we'll need a Gundogan or similar next to Silva for the most part.
 
Cheadle Blue said:
That Mendy from Monaco is immense
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Immense going forward yes, but going the other way I havent been impressed with him. He's got done by both sterling and dembele in both knockout games on his side that's led to goals. Basically you would be getting a faster version of Kolorav although that might work for the style pep wants to implement
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
I think Pep would class Sane & Sterling as midfielders. I think he'd probably class Sanchez as one too. But yeah, I do think we'll need a Gundogan or similar next to Silva for the most part.
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Pep constantly refers to those two as "strikers" in his press conferences, so I'd disagree with you there.

There seems to be a misconception that we played Sterling and Sané as wingbacks arlier in the season just because we played 3 at the back, but Guardiola himself said that wasn't the case when asked about it (and seemed confused that someone would even think that) ...they were just wingers in a formation without fullbacks.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I am enclined to agree, but that's only because my conventional brain has been conditioned to accept round pegs in round holes?

Conte deserves a lot of credit somehow taking Victor Moses and turning him in to a wing back.

Our pressing from the front would be insane, and effectively add to the midfield?

When I look at the line-up I posted, you could argue....there are a lot more fits than I first assumed, in terms of Pep making the formation work?


OTAMENDI - FECK KNOWS
STONES - PIQUE
BONUCCI - PUYOL
STERLING - DANI ALVES
SANE - JORDI ALBA
SILVA - INIESTA
DE BRUYNE - BUSQUETS (I KNOW, A STRETCH)
SANCHEZ - MESSI
MBAPPE - SUAREZ
JESUS - NEYMAR
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Lacks a Xavi though, I just think Sane and Sterling as wing backs is wrong firstly not sure they are very good ones or ones that would too tuck in and have a passing range, and secondly it doesn't get the best out of their talent for me.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Could it work?

.......EDERSON......

.......OTAMENDI....STONES......BONUCCI.....

STERLING....................................SANE....

............DE BRUYNE........SILVA........

.......................SANCHEZ..............

...........MBAPPE.....................JESUS.........
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Imagine that haha! If Sanchez and Mbappe come, Sterling is benched for sure. With that line up, you'd prefer having more solid wing backs though.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I am enclined to agree, but that's only because my conventional brain has been conditioned to accept round pegs in round holes?

Conte deserves a lot of credit somehow taking Victor Moses and turning him in to a wing back.

Our pressing from the front would be insane, and effectively add to the midfield?

When I look at the line-up I posted, you could argue....there are a lot more fits than I first assumed, in terms of Pep making the formation work?


OTAMENDI - FECK KNOWS
STONES - PIQUE
BONUCCI - PUYOL
STERLING - DANI ALVES
SANE - JORDI ALBA
SILVA - INIESTA
DE BRUYNE - BUSQUETS (I KNOW, A STRETCH)
SANCHEZ - MESSI
MBAPPE - SUAREZ
JESUS - NEYMAR
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Otamendi - Mascherano
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Could it work?

.......EDERSON......

.......OTAMENDI....STONES......BONUCCI.....

STERLING....................................SANE....

............DE BRUYNE........SILVA........

.......................SANCHEZ..............

...........MBAPPE.....................JESUS.........
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It certainly could work but the only problem I see with that is with De bruyne in that role. Silva, I have no problem with as he can play virtually anywhere in center mid for pep including the base and he wouldn't look out of place. He's incredibly disciplined and aware but outside of his ball retention for someone with his frame he's also very tenacious in the tackling and reading of the game whether it be in interceptions or nicking the ball. With de bruyne though, that defensive discipline is just not there and you will have plenty of situation where he will vacate his position or the person he's marking to try and press for a ball that he can't win and gets easily exploited which has happened countless times this season.

With the full back positions, as navas has shown recently and moses for chelsea, you just need good discipline and recovery speed to be effective in that wing back role though I'm not particularly sure sane is as disciplined and aware positionally as sterling is. The other positions just work themselves out and no team will be able to deal with the high-intensity pressing, pace, fluidity and movement that the front three will give. All that said, Its all just a dream at this point as I don't see the purchase of both sanchez and Mbappe being possible in the same window.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Could it work?

.......EDERSON......

.......OTAMENDI....STONES......BONUCCI.....

STERLING....................................SANE....

............DE BRUYNE........SILVA........

.......................SANCHEZ..............

...........MBAPPE.....................JESUS.........
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Willy Carvalho needed against top sides
 
Callum Ramsey said:
Immense going forward yes, but going the other way I havent been impressed with him. He's got done by both sterling and dembele in both knockout games on his side that's led to goals. Basically you would be getting a faster version of Kolorav although that might work for the style pep wants to implement
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I agree with you to a point about Mendy defensively but Sterling and Demdele would do most defenders 1v1. His positioning would need working on, but with Peps coaching and a bit more experience I think he can improve that aspect of his game. The lads a beast going forward, good passer and very good crosser.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
I am enclined to agree, but that's only because my conventional brain has been conditioned to accept round pegs in round holes?

Conte deserves a lot of credit somehow taking Victor Moses and turning him in to a wing back.

Our pressing from the front would be insane, and effectively add to the midfield?

When I look at the line-up I posted, you could argue....there are a lot more fits than I first assumed, in terms of Pep making the formation work?


OTAMENDI - FECK KNOWS
STONES - PIQUE
BONUCCI - PUYOL
STERLING - DANI ALVES
SANE - JORDI ALBA
SILVA - INIESTA
DE BRUYNE - BUSQUETS (I KNOW, A STRETCH)
SANCHEZ - MESSI
MBAPPE - SUAREZ
JESUS - NEYMAR
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I think the Busquets kind of player is missing in that formation, as you said, lining up KDB to fill that role is a stretch. I am just not convinced that Silva, KDB Sane and Sterling will be good enough to win the ball back in midfield or put the tackles in... Silva is probably the most likely as he got a bit of a mean streak about him but I still feel we are missing a proper enforcer in midfield (been saying that since we let De Jong go though to be honest).
 
You can't have 7 attacked-minded players in the line-up at once, it is suicide, even Barcelona have Busquets.

In regards to the 3 atb formation posted (which is like a 3-4-1-2), Tottenham play this exact formation with fullbacks, and TWO DM's Wanyama and Dembele, we cannot get away with putting Silva and Kevin there for it to work, even if Sane and Sterling are wingbacks.

Also, Domalino is correct in saying that Sane and Sterling didn't play as traditional wingbacks, Pep played a 3-2-4-1 formation, which used two DMs to reduce Sane and Sterling's defensive contribution. If we use Silva and Kevin then this team has 0 balance.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Could it work?

.......EDERSON......

.......OTAMENDI....STONES......BONUCCI.....

STERLING....................................SANE....

............DE BRUYNE........SILVA........

.......................SANCHEZ..............

...........MBAPPE.....................JESUS.........
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Could be picky about the lack of anyone making tackles any further forward than the back three, but that's missing the main point...

How the hell is Ottamendi still in that team? You may as well stick Clichy at wingback
 
Ederson
Stones
Bonnuci
Laporte
Fabinho
Silva
De Bruyne
Sane
Mbappe
Jesus
Sanchez

Would love that team!!
 
Cheadle Blue said:
Not really, if he still has a contract

Arsenal could turn us down at £50m for example, and accept £40m from another club outside the premier league

Sanchez would have no say in that, other than refusing to move, he then plays a game of wills against Arsenal
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That IS the trump card.
 
__________________Ederson______________

Maffeo_____Kompany______Otamendi____Fernandinho

__Sanchez___________Silva____________KDB___

Mbappe___________Aguero_________Jesus
 
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