General Election June 8th

Who will you vote for at the General Election?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 189 28.8%

  • Labour

    Votes: 366 55.8%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 37 5.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 23 3.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 33 5.0%
  • Total voters
    656
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If corbyn gets a hung parliament or beyond. It will be the greatest electoral achievement In my lifetime! Considering the attacks from his own right wing, his own supposed supporters, Labour gandees, the entire broadcast media. 95% of the written media, other left wing political parties, Tory supporters (obviously) world leaders.

This turn around is remarkable.

Added to that. Theresa May Should she win or lose will get the old Et Tu Brute within weeks. She's a gonna!
 
Cheesy said:
Agree mate. It's so open to abuse. What do you do if you walk in the booth, give your name & address and then get told your vote has already been cast?
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On the face of it, it does sound ridiculous but in practice it doesn't cause any problems. I read at the last election there were just 26 allegations of voter fraud out of 54 million votes. I think the benefits of how simple and inclusive it is in its current state outweighs any potential problems.
 
geoff clipp said:
Even with no polling card you don't actually need any form of ID or utility bill. You can just give your name and that's it.
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I rarely take my polling card and have never been asked to provide ID. If one of your neighbours never votes you could easily give their name and address. Vote early in the day legitimately, then later in the day for a second time. Seems like a wierd thing to do, not worth the risk for one extra vote, but people do strange things.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It's a very quaint, British way of doing things, but it's ridiculously anachronistic. A pencil attached to a string ffs! There is simply no reason why votes cannot be cast online. None whatsoever.
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Cheesy said:
Agree mate. It's so open to abuse. What do you do if you walk in the booth, give your name & address and then get told your vote has already been cast?
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I will pay £100 each for Kens, Fumbles, Len Rum and Urban Genie's real names and addresses.

It would be quite fun to get down early and do the right thing by voting for them.
 
brass neck said:
If corbyn gets a hung parliament or beyond. It will be the greatest electoral achievement In my lifetime! Considering the attacks from his own right wing, his own supposed supporters, Labour gandees, the entire broadcast media. 95% of the written media, other left wing political parties, Tory supporters (obviously) world leaders.

This turn around is remarkable.

Added to that. Theresa May Should she win or lose will get the old Et Tu Brute within weeks. She's a gonna!
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Labour has run a cracking relentless campaign from day 1 and Corbyn has remained pretty cool when I have seen him. The Tories have been dreadful absolutely awful. May has looked rigid and rumours of her controlling nature have been visible with her lack of big guns around her. The way she stays on script shows she hates to be unprepared and caught thinking on her feet. May be a pm with hard work and preparation is a good trait but in an election campaign where appealing to the public in a popularity contest she is dreadful.

She looks like the one who does not want it anymore.
 
Cheesy said:
But you have been brainwashed. Only not by the Tories or (as is usually suggested, the right wing media), but by the the Guardian and the Labour party, into thinking that we live in country that's in ruins and that everything they want to do can be paid for by increasing taxes. It can't and it won't.
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Private wealth and public squalor. The Tory model.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Labour has run a cracking relentless campaign from day 1 and Corbyn has remained pretty cool when I have seen him. The Tories have been dreadful absolutely awful. May has looked rigid and rumours of her controlling nature have been visible with her lack of big guns around her. The way she stays on script shows she hates to be unprepared and caught thinking on her feet. May be a pm with hard work and preparation is a good trait but in an election campaign where appealing to the public in a popularity contest she is dreadful.

She looks like the one who does not want it anymore.
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If she lost her majority, for me, it would be utterly hilarious. A couple of weeks ago I was convinced it would be a huge Tory majority, and still think they'll win, but it's certainly going to be interesting in the next week or so. Think that Labour is going to struggle too much in marginals though.
 
think the swing back to May will be quieter voters, and also voters who may even be tempted by Corbyn in the past few weeks but when it comes to casting their vote only have to have one big doubt, whether its policy, IRA or Abbott/McDonnell, to go with the status quo. That's the challenge for Corbyn, people are clearly warming to him and the idea of voting for him, but when it comes to the crunch how many people will just decide it was a nice idea but there was something troubling that stops them.
 
Vic said:
I see what you did there. Conflated two comments. "Daft" was to someone trying to make a daft point.

Still, I'm still trying to get over why anyone who's been a refugee would want to give any comfort to the Tory party. My sincere apologies to any generous Tories out there who use what they save in tax cuts to make charitable donations.

I wouldn't want to get into "I'm considerably more generous than yow" but when people are praising a Tory MP for pointing out that food bank users are not really poor but have just had delays in benefit or been sanctioned I'm afraid my capacity to think the best of people is wearing thin.
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The point being made was that rich people not paying tax contributes to homelessness and poverty in this country. That's ludicrous. I don't pay tax because I don't earn enough to do so, but I get a "free pass" from criticism, yet the fact remains that I don't pay tax at all yet still benefit from these social services. Shouldn't I come under that same ridicule of "contributing to homelessness?"

People on higher salaries have probably paid more in tax than i've earned; they've paid their share and mine, asking them to pay even more AND to have the cheek to suggest that them refusing or having an issue with paying more tax is a contributory factor in the numbers of homeless and "poverty stricken" citizens is a bit of an exaggeration.

There was also meant to be a slight bit of humour in my post that you missed. Oh well.
 
BJL_City said:
think the swing back to May will be quieter voters, and also voters who may even be tempted by Corbyn in the past few weeks but when it comes to casting their vote only have to have one big doubt, whether its policy, IRA or Abbott/McDonnell, to go with the status quo. That's the challenge for Corbyn, people are clearly warming to him and the idea of voting for him, but when it comes to the crunch how many people will just decide it was a nice idea but there was something troubling that stops them.
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I think you're probably right.
 
I'd love to know how many under 25's registered before the deadline. And of course how many of them will turn up.

The young are in the main idealists, and buy the sugar-coated vision painted by kind uncle Jeremy. So he is MILES ahead in that demographic. The problem for him is that traditionally they can't be arsed to vote.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I'd love to know how many under 25's registered before the deadline. And of course how many of them will turn up.

The young are in the main idealists, and buy the sugar-coated vision painted by kind uncle Jeremy. So he is MILES ahead in that demographic. The problem for him is that traditionally they can't be arsed to vote.
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My lad will vote for the first time at this election. He's 24 and hasn't bothered before so he falls into that demographic you mention.

He's voting Tory.
 
these polls dont make any sense, yesterday the conservatives were 12 points ahead, now its just a few points today apparently. we've gone from not trusting polls, to pretty much every political conversation being based on polls.
 
Cheesy said:
My lad will vote for the first time at this election. He's 24 and hasn't bothered before so he falls into that demographic you mention.

He's voting Tory.
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That's reassuring and worrying and probably more of the latter than the former. If the under 25's turn up in numbers, May is screwed.
 
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