Alexis Sanchez

[Neville Kneville]

Think there is every chance Jesus or Aguero get dropped if they under perform and someone else is doing better

They will get 'dropped' plenty. And Sané will be one of the most important players if he continues as he did last season.

 

[zeven]

if we buy sanchez or mbappe it doesnt matter how much they fight for their place, as those two for example would always start. i think most city fans care about winning, but most are trying to figure how we can fit so many attacking players in and keep the squad happy.

Let Pep deal with that headache. Just enjoy the ride and put your trust in Pep . my opinion is we need 2 top class players on each position.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Under-performing perhaps but can we really afford to carry all of what we have AND bring in Sanchez incase this happens?


Sanchez was a million miles from the player he is now when he was at Barca so more likely to accept rotation. As it stands, he's a 28 (29 in December) year old, in his prime and rotating will not be a consideration for him.

Of course, the 28 year old Sanchez is not going to replace the near 34 year old Robben or the 34 year old Ribery; pass me whatever you're smoking - it's obviously brilliant.

Sanchez is 28 & will not be here very long.

If he doesn't like it, he can fuck off.

 

[Marvin]

Let Pep deal with that headache. Just enjoy the ride and put your trust in Pep . my opinion is we need 2 top class players on each position.

I am and I do. but precisely because I do trust Pep, I predict that an Aguero sale will follow a Sanchez purchase, or the whole thing is a fabrication.

Sorry. That's my last comment on this. I keep saying that to myself as all I am doing is repeating myself and it must be very boring to read

 

[Nibler13]

And why would that be true? Sanchez knows Pep's rotation policy, he had it when he was at Barca. If he wants to play every week he can stay at Arsenal. If he wants to win trophies either here or at Bayern Munich he will need to learn to sit on the bench every 3rd game - Because he's sure as shit not going to start every week if Robben Ribery and Lewandowski are fit either.

Great point...also have Muller, Coman & Costa (though I think he's supposedly being shopped)

 

[M18CTID]

Richards keys on Twitter Sanchez joining city this summer tbf he did call pep think he was one of the first too.

I think when he called Pep he was 12 months out on the timing of it - Keys claimed it was happening in the summer of 2015 IIRC

 

[chaddblue]

Hope I'm wrong, but just can't see us pulling this one off. Reckon he'll either stay at Arse or move abroad

 

[leewill31]

Under-performing perhaps but can we really afford to carry all of what we have AND bring in Sanchez incase this happens?


Sanchez was a million miles from the player he is now when he was at Barca so more likely to accept rotation. As it stands, he's a 28 (29 in December) year old, in his prime and rotating will not be a consideration for him.

Of course, the 28 year old Sanchez is not going to replace the near 34 year old Robben or the 34 year old Ribery; pass me whatever you're smoking - it's obviously brilliant.

You are vastly underestimating Pep and the ability he has to play and control a 24 man squad of players that would easily make up two first elevens in league or cup competitions...

 

[doobyedoobye]

I expect this is going to go all summer. Arsenal don't need the money and I can't see Wenger letting him go unless they have a worldie already banked.

 

[domalino]

Under-performing perhaps but can we really afford to carry all of what we have AND bring in Sanchez incase this happens?


Sanchez was a million miles from the player he is now when he was at Barca so more likely to accept rotation. As it stands, he's a 28 (29 in December) year old, in his prime and rotating will not be a consideration for him.

Of course, the 28 year old Sanchez is not going to replace the near 34 year old Robben or the 34 year old Ribery; pass me whatever you're smoking - it's obviously brilliant.

If you think Bayern Munich will drop either Robben or Ribery when fit for anyone, you're the one smoking something. They're 2 of the msot important players in the dressing room, fan favourites and players who are so entrenched in the club there would be complete outrage if they were cut out so Sanchez could satisfy his ego and play every week, something which even Ronaldo doesn't do any more.

If Sanchez wants to go to a club to win things, he's going to get familiar with the bench, like everyone else. It's also the best chance of him not rocking up to the world cup completely exhausted and carrying a seasons worth of small injuries too.

 

[inconnu]

Ribery played 1200 min ( only league matches )
Sanchez 3200 ( also only league matches )
Ribery is no longer capable of playing full 90 minutes in high profile match
Sanchez will be first choice if he will go to Bayern

 

[ninjamonkey]

There's no logic in your argument. Last season's players weren't OK with it, and top class players are even less likely to be OK with it.

There's no logic to improving the squad and replacing bench warmers with genuine quality? They'll be told there's no place guaranteed and they're not stupid, if Sanchez is looking at coming here he knows we've already got Aguero, jesus Sane and Sterling and none of them are going anywhere and will therefore occasionally have to sit games out when all are fit and available, There's no logic to not doing it purely because we've got enough quality in that position to cover the first 11 which seems to be your argument. Again, we're building a squad with little to no drop off in quality regardless of who players, that effectively means 2 players for each position, Sanchez,Aguero,Jesus,Sane,Sterling is 5 for 6 with them all being interchangeable and potentially Roberts or Bernardo as the extra cover. The whole "there's no room" argument isn't valid until we've got a 25 man squad of top class quality.

 

[PragueBlue]

Bring Sanchez in and he starts every game he is fit - exactly as he does at Arsenal, therefore Sane is likely to miss out because there's zero chance of Pep dropping Aguero or Jesus when fit. So we are assuming that Sane will be happy to play in the cup games, the lesser league games whilst Sanchez plays the in 75% of the league games and all of the CL games (unless Sanchez gets an injury). Sane will be off like a shot and he will have his pick of clubs.

"who plays if Sane is injured and we don't sign Sanchez?" - Silva, Silva, Sterling, Jesus, KDB - any of them can fill in. Isn't the whole Pep philosophy that people can play across various positions?

There is no doubting that Sanchez is a great player but to bring him in and impede the development of what we already have is absolutely criminal.

But hey, if building a huge squad with two exceptional players in every position works for you on Fifa and Football Manager, I'm sure it will work in real life.

I'm sure you are right that it would never work in real life only on FM. No team could possibly have 2 top players for each of the forward positions. You'd never get Tevez, Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko in one squad that only plays 2 up front. That could simply never happen. It's a good job you're wrong though as I suspect we wouldn't have won the league without them.

If Sane wasn't fit you wouldn't be able to call on Bernardo Silva or Jesus as we would never have bought them using your reckoning, as it might have upset Sane, Sterling and Aguero.

The reason we haven't won that much the past few seasons is that we simply have had too big a drop when our starters have been out. Going from Sterling and Sane to Navas and Nolito meant that we couldn't really compete on all fronts. Hopefully we'll have around 60 games this season (plus internationals) and if we just played pretty much the same 11 all season, they'd be completely knackered by the time the World Cup came around. Running into the ground like that is likely to affect their form and fitness. We need to keep our players fit and fresh and that can only be achieved by rotation and rotation will only be effective if we have similar quality players to rotate.

 

[Kamran Shirinzade]

Still doubt Arsenal will sell him to PL rival considering pressure on Wenger and Gazidis.

 

[cadds92]

Still doubt Arsenal will sell him to PL rival considering pressure on Wenger and Gazidis.

If Sanchez wants City and forces it through it could happen.

Wenger will say no and demand he just leaves on a free next season, but the shareholders won't turn down up to £50m for a player that wants to leave and only has one year left on his contract.

 

[super_city_si]

Still doubt Arsenal will sell him to PL rival considering pressure on Wenger and Gazidis.

it wouldnt be their preferred choice but if Sanchez is adamant that is his choice then i think they sell rather than lose the cash

 

[ak93city]

Have to say, been reading posts by you fine folk past week, and my god, never seen such low ambitions from a fan base of a club wanting to be as big as it gets.
Lads, Pep Guardiola has managed Bayern Munich which had an attack+mid better than anything we've ever had, or will after this transfer window.

It consisted of Lewandowski, Muller, Costa, Coman, Ribery, Robben, Thiago, Alonso, Vidal etc. If he can manage that lot, surely he can manage 3 kids in Raz, Gaby, Sane, (even Mbappe if that story has any meat), and 2 seniors in Kun and Sanchez.

It was clear as night and day that Sterling couldn't keep up for the whole season; Sane, who properly played for only half a season also dipped in form by the end of it. It's crucial to keep in mind the age and experience of most of these players. They're not of the calibre yet to be delivering multiple trophies by starting continuously in a season.

So yeah, let's not needlessly cry foul and exaggerate about playing time for players, particularly when we've gone 3 seasons without a serious trophy.
If Madrid can maintain a second team, and so can Bayern, then we ought to be able to do that too if we want to reach the same heights.

And we certainly can.

 

[Damocles]

Have to say, been reading posts by you fine folk past week, and my god, never seen such low ambitions from a fan base of a club wanting to be as big as it gets.

Good post.

I ranted about this a bit on the 93:20 podcast that I was on this week (cheap plug). Unfortunately it's a strange fanbase mixture where we've not quite accepted the reality of our position and ambition still.

 

[bumbleblue]

Have to say, been reading posts by you fine folk past week, and my god, never seen such low ambitions from a fan base of a club wanting to be as big as it gets.
Lads, Pep Guardiola has managed Bayern Munich which had an attack+mid better than anything we've ever had, or will after this transfer window.

It consisted of Lewandowski, Muller, Costa, Coman, Ribery, Robben, Thiago, Alonso, Vidal etc. If he can manage that lot, surely he can manage 3 kids in Raz, Gaby, Sane, (even Mbappe if that story has any meat), and 2 seniors in Kun and Sanchez.

It was clear as night and day that Sterling couldn't keep up for the whole season; Sane, who properly played for only half a season also dipped in form by the end of it. It's crucial to keep in mind the age and experience of most of these players. They're not of the calibre yet to be delivering multiple trophies by starting continuously in a season.

So yeah, let's not needlessly cry foul and exaggerate about playing time for players, particularly when we've gone 3 seasons without a serious trophy.
If Madrid can maintain a second team, and so can Bayern, then we ought to be able to do that too if we want to reach the same heights.

And we certainly can.

Love it, it is exactly what I have been struggling to put into words.

 

[zeven]

Have to say, been reading posts by you fine folk past week, and my god, never seen such low ambitions from a fan base of a club wanting to be as big as it gets.
Lads, Pep Guardiola has managed Bayern Munich which had an attack+mid better than anything we've ever had, or will after this transfer window.

It consisted of Lewandowski, Muller, Costa, Coman, Ribery, Robben, Thiago, Alonso, Vidal etc. If he can manage that lot, surely he can manage 3 kids in Raz, Gaby, Sane, (even Mbappe if that story has any meat), and 2 seniors in Kun and Sanchez.

It was clear as night and day that Sterling couldn't keep up for the whole season; Sane, who properly played for only half a season also dipped in form by the end of it. It's crucial to keep in mind the age and experience of most of these players. They're not of the calibre yet to be delivering multiple trophies by starting continuously in a season.

So yeah, let's not needlessly cry foul and exaggerate about playing time for players, particularly when we've gone 3 seasons without a serious trophy.
If Madrid can maintain a second team, and so can Bayern, then we ought to be able to do that too if we want to reach the same heights.

And we certainly can.

Top notch post there. Hope everyone reads it and reconsider their standpoint on "to many players to keep happy" BS