General Election June 8th

[SWP's back]

Haha. Go on Jezza !

As much as May has run a dreadful campaign - Corbyn deserves a lot of credit, he was given no hope by anybody a few months ago, even he's own party members - My Tory mates cheering when Corbyn was announced party leader as this 'guarenteed Tories would be in power for years to come' .. that might still be the case but they've gone very quiet these last few weeks.

We can tell when you're making stuff up hammer.

Ps - that's not really Corbyn in the video.

 

[mackenzie]

Yep, it's red in tooth and claw, but some people are doing alright and look at all the cranes in Manchester! And we've had non stop increasing living standards these last seven years! Yes we have! It's a fucking nirvana! And only bitter old socialists stuck in the 70's and people who love to put Britain down can't see it.

It's like a sodding mantra from those who don't truly understand what it's like to be an unemployed jobseekers in today's labour market.
I don't post on here nearly as much as I used to but just wanted to point out what I've found to be true in recent weeks. I'll say it again; I was gobsmacked. Having spent 20 years away from that particular role I couldn't believe the shite jobs (and I use that term loosely) on offer.
Thatcher started the trend and those with a vested interest(money, and lots of it) have run with it to make what we have today. I could bloody weep.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Nope.

A clear indication spice and Tories don't mix well.

 

[Blue Mooner]

Yeah, they should have told him to get his arse over lickety split and had they done so would that have been Brussels dictating to the UK as well? Pray tell, if Brussels giving more time to Corbyn is dictating and Brussels giving no more time to Corbyn is dictating, what could Brussels have said that was not dictating?

Nothing, presumably.

Your totally missing the point. Brussels have said that they want negotiations to begin week of the 19th June. May has used that to say (quite rightly) that Corbyn isn't ready to negotiate.

It seems Brussels have now decided to say oh no we will give you more time if a new govt comes in.

SWP quite rightly points out that is the EU clearly intervening in the UK Democratic election undermining one of Mays key election strategies.

 

[SWP's back]

Yeah, they should have told him to get his arse over lickety split and had they done so would that have been Brussels dictating to the UK as well? Pray tell, if Brussels giving more time to Corbyn is dictating and Brussels giving no more time to Corbyn is dictating, what could Brussels have said that was not dictating?

Nothing, presumably.

They could have not said anything.

You think a pro-Brexit undecided is suddenly going to vote for Corbyn on the basis that Brussels will give us more time with him in charge?

It seems awfully like Brussels is trying to engineer a Labour government no?

 

[Blue Mooner]

It's like a sodding mantra from those who don't truly understand what it's like to be an unemployed jobseekers in today's labour market.
I don't post on here nearly as much as I used to but just wanted to point out what I've found to be true in recent weeks. I'll say it again; I was gobsmacked. Having spent 20 years away from that particular role I couldn't believe the shite jobs (and I use that term loosely) on offer.
Thatcher started the trend and those with a vested interest(money, and lots of it) have run with it to make what we have today. I could bloody weep.

And I suppose working in a coal mine was a good job.....?

Plus, there's enough Eastern Europeans thinking it's a good job market.

 

[SWP's back]

Not sure what is so limiting about leaving £325000 before any tax kicks in really.

So you happily accept any arbitrary figure the government suggests?

What would be your cut off point?

 

[ballbag]

And I suppose working in a coal mine was a good job.....?

It was a job.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Your totally missing the point. Brussels have said that they want negotiations to begin week of the 19th June. May has used that to say (quite rightly) that Corbyn isn't ready to negotiate.

It seems Brussels have now decided to say oh no we will give you more time if a new govt comes in.

SWP quite rightly points out that is the EU clearly intervening in the UK Democratic election undermining one of Mays key election strategies.

Or stating that it would not force a new government to a timetable set by an outgoing government, which is the sort of thing grown ups do in mature democracies.

 

[cibaman]

Theresa May is going to get so much abuse from the others at tonight's debate, she might as well have turned up, how much worse could it have been ?

Tone could be as important as content tonight. It will be hugely tempting for all of the other participants to gang up and give Rudd and May a kicking. Which could be seriously counter productive.

The dynamnic between Corbyn and Sturgeon will be fascinating. In 2015 she tore into Miliband on the basis of his support for "Tory cuts" and unwillingness to discuss a coalition. Clearly she can't argue that Corbyn will be Tory lite, so what tack will she take? She must want Corbyn to win in England, but she's got all of those seats in Scotland to defend. I expect that Corbyn will do very well. Its the sort of low level, sixth form debate which plays to his strengths. His biggest risk is probably that it turns into a Corbyn / Sturgeon love in and it scares middle England voters to death.

 

[SWP's back]

A clear indication spice and Tories don't mix well.

Good to see the spice isn't affecting you then.

Still think Labour will be ahead in the polls by tomorrow?

 

[Magicpole]

Already in place.... just for property and leaves less than £30k rather than £100k.

Why aren't you raving about that?

No mate, why aren't you raving at all?

 

[SWP's back]

Your totally missing the point. Brussels have said that they want negotiations to begin week of the 19th June. May has used that to say (quite rightly) that Corbyn isn't ready to negotiate.

It seems Brussels have now decided to say oh no we will give you more time if a new govt comes in.

SWP quite rightly points out that is the EU clearly intervening in the UK Democratic election undermining one of Mays key election strategies.

I'm glad I'm not the only person with the ability to read between the lines.

 

[mackenzie]

And I suppose working in a coal mine was a good job.....?

Plus, there's enough Eastern Europeans thinking it's a good job market.

A job that gives a man and his family a decent wage and self respect is good. Did you actually witness the times of the miners strikes?
And Eastern Europeans that came here to work usually did a gruelling job week in and month out because they knew it was only temporary. The financial return made a massive difference for them.

 

[SWP's back]

And I suppose working in a coal mine was a good job.....?

Plus, there's enough Eastern Europeans thinking it's a good job market.

Could you weep? If you couldn't weep then you it doesn't mean as much.

 

[Blue Mooner]

It was a job.

Or stating that it would not force a new government to a timetable set by an outgoing government, which is the sort of thing grown ups do in mature democracies.

Post the election yes but not in the throes of campaigning when you have originally stated a start date of the 19th June. It's blatant electioneering on behalf of the EU and precisely why we have a period of purdah during general elections.

 

[SWP's back]

which is the sort of thing grown ups do in mature democracies.

Just like allowing referenda?

Something Labour weren't a fan of.

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Good to see the spice isn't affecting you then.

Still think Labour will be ahead in the polls by tomorrow?

A lot will depend on tonight but I definitely think things will be tight come next week

 

[SWP's back]

No mate, why aren't you raving at all?

Raving does fuck all. So I simply implemented long term care estate planning for my clients in the U.K. to avoid it, all legal and water tight.

Either system stinks to be fair.

 

[Blue Mooner]

A job that gives a man and his family a decent wage and self respect is good. Did you actually witness the times of the miners strikes?
And Eastern Europeans that came here to work usually did a gruelling job week in and month out because they knew it was only temporary. The financial return made a massive difference for them.

So what sort of job would make you weep? I can't think of anything worse than being underground in the pitch black for 10 hours a day getting covered and breathing in crap. These must be 'really' bad jobs.?