General Election June 8th

[Peggy's a blue]

Weren't you just banging on about name calling?

What did I call you?

 

[mayo31]

I don't vote, but like to keep up with the latest election banter, I don't think there is any argument that the Blair creature sanctioned murder.

Politics a lot like football. There not much room for banter when your side getting it.

If there were 90 odd parties maybe.

Most people pick a side usually passed down by family. No room for change.

My lad can vote for the first time. He says Tory for him. I see why because he has a job at a private firm that give good bonuses. He only 18 so no real cares other than money birds booze and city.

Plus he had a stable good upbringing by us. Holidays, own house etc. He sees that as the norm. Which it should be but others not so lucky.

I vote labour as I believe in the socialist part.

 

[Len Rum]

Education hammered by this govt!? You must be having a laugh. I've never met such an incompetent generation as those schooled under 13 years of Labour government. That's probably why the Greens, Labour and lib dems tell us we need so much immigration to get the skills we need. Skills that from growing up in the 80s and 90s we didn't appear to need in such large numbers.

As for poverty, you say that like 13 years of the last tax and spend Labour government got that issue cracked. 'If' there is more poverty in the last 7 years you need look no further than Labour for leaving the country in the state they did and the Tories making the difficult choices to get it fixed.

The problem with Labour is they seem to think every problem is solved by continually throwing more money at it. One trick ponies. The problem is there isn't a limitless supply of that so guess what you have to make difficult choices.

That isn't because I don't want a first class health service, free at the point of need, or the best education system in the world, or no one living in poverty, it just so happens that the real world and real life choices get in the way.

Anecdotally, my wife saw a beautiful Versace bag the other day, unfortunately, I didn't have the money to buy her that so I got her the Michael Kors instead, same size, same colour, could hold the same amount but a fraction of the price. You see its all about value and the outcome was a good one. I didn't get out the plastic and pretend she could have whatever bag she wanted just to make her happy because eventually the credit would get maxed out and the bank would want repaying.

Socialists are well meaning but totally misguided.

Here's a real world choice then for your beloved Tories mate.
Don't cut corporation tax from 20% (one of the lowest in advanced economies) to 17%, spend that money on public services.
Not difficult is it?

 

[jay_mcfc]

I don't vote can't stand hardly any of them, just detest some more than others, starting with appeasers of murderers!

You mean like the British Army and Unionists?

 

[hilts]

Are you northern Irish by any chance?

No

 

[CitizenTID]

You mean like the British Army and Unionists?

Well on the British side, our guys I think were more colluders with Unionists than appeasers

 

[SWP's back]

We are all pissing ourselves watching Tories arses going like rabbits nostrils.

Not as much as we will enjoy watching you fuckers squirm for the next five years.

Just wish they'd build the wall higher.

 

[CitizenTID]

No

Fair play, just asked to establish whether there is predisposition behind your posts or not on the matter

 

[Magicpole]

talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel , no wonder Labour are catching up in the polls with sh*t like this

Monarchy, IRA, Hamas Zzzzzzzzz any of that in the Manifesto ?

You can smell the shite running down their legs when you see the bottom of the barrel with crap like that.

They believed they had it in the bag and their conceit at thinking we are all morons has put them on their arse.

She has shown herself to be a series of car crashes.

Trying to paint Corbyn in this last final appeal to hate will hopefully be the final nail on a lead balloon coffin.

 

[The blue phantom]

The Coward May just had a savaging on sky. It was brought up too about Rudd losing her dad 3 days before. No one could quiet believe she still made her take her place.

What an absolute fuckin shitststain of a human being.

 

[CitizenTID]

Not as much as we will enjoy watching you fuckers squirm for the next five years.

Just wish they'd build the wall higher.

Sure you know it's more a ruin than a wall since it doesn't stretch across anymore.

Also by "we" I presume you refer to "us that don't know who the problem is so take it out on a section of our own whom wave a flag sometimes that isn't ours but are actually significantly closer to us socially and culturally than some that do sometimes wave a flag that is ours and fester divisions created by the people that are the problem but whom we continually support" rather than "we south of said ruin, most of whom realise the home nations hating each other is a myth stoked by people that can't look past their own nose."

 

[Magicpole]

Not as much as we will enjoy watching you fuckers squirm for the next five years.

Just wish they'd build the wall higher.

Oh I would say it is. All the bluster, all the, she's strong Shute you and your fellow Tories regurgitated from your right wing press has shown to be horse shit.

She's weak, she's a shitebag, she's a liar, she's a U turn loving, hide away leader who has be well and truly sussed.

If she still wins it will say so much about why we need to leave. If England are going to buy that fake liar then could anybody who also hates the Tories blame us?

Tories are in disarray and look if for the press to try to find or release that final character assassination of Corbyn to help her. That's their only hope because their manifesto is a suicude note of Foot proportions. How they handled it is like watching drunks trying to walk a tightrope, ended arse over tits with people realising they're a bunch of twats.

 

[hilts]

I was unaware the queen was in the running for prime minister plus you have left out the picture of her observing a minutes silence for the fallen freedom fighters of the IRA.

I'm struggling to work out which is more desperate the pictures of the queen or the Tory mp shit of a woman that no one on here has defended.

 

[CitizenTID]

We could just sort this with the simple question of:

a) Do you give a fuck about the NHS or not?

- If not: vote Tory/UKIP
- If you don't want a future moving towards being saddled with debt for receiving basic healthcare: vote for any major party that aren't Tory/UKIP.

 

[Machiavelli]

I was unaware the queen was in the running for prime minister plus you have left out the picture of her observing a minutes silence for the fallen freedom fighters of the IRA.

I'm struggling to work out which is more desperate the pictures of the queen or the Tory mp shit of a woman that no one on here has defended.

desperate? I just posted the pics.

 

[Metal Biker]

Ah right fair enough, I completely overlooked that because I looked at it alongside Corbyn being painted as an IRA supporter in the past. My points still stand on the woman anyway.

The Tories have missed a trick in hiring people that make images of quotations about Scholes as part of their campaign team. She'd have the rag vote sealed up over night.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, her past does paint her in a poor light, and I don't mean for the correction to be "you can't use this to bash the Tories"! Just that when quotes are used they are used in the correct context. It annoys me when they do it about Corbyn and Labour and I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't say anything when the same was done to Conservative MP's too. :)

 

[Len Rum]

You can smell the shite running down their legs when you see the bottom of the barrel with crap like that.

They believed they had it in the bag and their conceit at thinking we are all morons has put them on their arse.

She has shown herself to be a series of car crashes.

Trying to paint Corbyn in this last final appeal to hate will hopefully be the final nail on a lead balloon coffin.

I wouldn't get too excited mate.
England will vote Tory big style and she will get a majority, 100+, as the kippers defect to a party that actually has no plan to cut immigration ( but pretends it will).
Then there is a sizeable number of English voters ( mainly elderly) who always defer to their elders and betters ( the Tories) and then 'hang on in quiet desperation' and moan until the next general election when they vote for them again.
Sad, but there you have it.
The problem is that although Labour's campaign has outshone the Tories and May has been a disaster and embarrassment in equal measure, Labour have been a shambolic opposition for two years ( for lots of reasons and by no means all Jezza's fault) and are not seen as a Goverment in waiting. You can't turn that perception around in an election campaign.

 

[Blue Mooner]

Did you buy that argument pre-made direct from the Tories?

- Even if he does despise the Monarchy, the PM can't get the power on their own to get rid. As he said on Sky's debate, it's not in the manifesto because it aint happening and the manifesto is the result of the party's democratic decisions, he isn't a dictator.
- Not clear he supported the IRA (where's your source for the support of killing our troops?), he sympathised with their anger so he could bring them down to the negotiation table for peace and to find a peaceful solution. Same tactic for Hamas and the one anyone with any sense would use as hitting them back means they'll always be bitter toward you instead of respecting you for giving the matters they raise the chance to be heard and taken seriously instead of dismissed because they are poor working class out the way of the gentry (what happened with Ireland the whole time).
- Where's your source for your Trump point because it just sounds like your own presumptive socialist phobia.
- Trident renewal is supported in their manifesto (see point 1 about co-operative decision making and not forcing own views on everyone else).
- Again, bullshit, example of Falklands came up on Sky's debate and he said he would have used the UN as a solution rather than risking British lives (this counters your IRA support against British troops statement).

What have the Tories costed in their manifesto? Nothing - despite knowing about the election before anyone else. Labour have costed everything (Tories keep lying they haven't costed), Labour have a managed immigration plan (Tories keep lying they'll have uncontrolled immigration whilst they themselves can't hit their own basic immigration targets). You're regurgitating all their lies. Take the effort to look into these things to realise the Tories are conning you and use your intelligence to understand why Corbyn takes the routes he does on matters to achieve the most effective solution and actually fix the problem rather than the obvious knee-jerk option every time.

With regard to your main point about being conned I would argue you are the one being conned. Dressing up support of the IRA as him somehow implementing his own peace process even though he had no power to do so is a repositioning of his support of the IRA. You believe otherwise.

All it proves is you believe the PR you want to believe, depending on what side of the fence you sit. Ultimately, I have no concrete proof of his intentions, I wasn't in the room when he introduced the Hamas terrorist group as friends. All I do know is that irrespective of trying to open a productive dialogue never in a million years would I greet murdering terrorists as 'friends'

Call me cynical, he's trying to get elected, and he knows his historical views make him unelectable you choose to believe Labour's damage limitation exercise and repositioning. We will never agree.

 

[SWP's back]

You must take great pleasure at the disabled having their benefits cut and the whole process being so stressful that they end up killing themselves.

Fuck off somewhere else with your strawman you toss pot.

 

[SWP's back]

Sure you know it's more a ruin than a wall since it doesn't stretch across anymore.

Also by "we" I presume you refer to "us that don't know who the problem is so take it out on a section of our own whom wave a flag sometimes that isn't ours but are actually significantly closer to us socially and culturally than some that do sometimes wave a flag that is ours and fester divisions created by the people that are the problem but whom we continually support" rather than "we south of said ruin, most of whom realise the home nations hating each other is a myth stoked by people that can't look past their own nose."

No, by we I mean people that are sick of nationalistic Scottish trolls.