Post Match Thread: Election 2017

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worsleyweb said:
No - but the waste through phi was scandalous. I worked on many hospitals and the waste I witnessed was frighteningly There was huge waste in the public sector and thousands of unnesaacry positions created.

The tories have not cut savagely as people would have you believe - they have managed a bloated public sector. They have actually increased spending year on year across most sectors but at as lower pace than previous. They are brining the public sector back to where it was prior to the grodon brown years as a percentage of GDV. know no one will agree with me but they have done a fabulous job since 2010.

Not looking to be controversial and I know you won't agree and most in here with me but that is my honest opinion. They get criticised for not reducing the defecit fast enough and get cristised for marking cuts. Seems like cake and eat it to me. Of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
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With respect mark you are well off but for those of us at the bottom of the food chain the cuts have been savage and really bad for us from healthcare,meals on wheels,district nurses all that kind of stuff,in other words the basics of living,all this is ignored as it's hidden and no-one well off cares about it,we will never agree so god bless you hun
 
Let me remind the lefties who can not accept defeat. Theresa May got more votes then any PM before her.
 
karen7 said:
Mods please
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Mods? Why...

You lefties really don't like democracy or freedom of speech do you. It's a fact are facts illegal here on bluemoon?

Let me repeat it. Theresa May got more votes then any other previous prime minister.
 
karen7 said:
With respect mark you are well off but for those of us at the bottom of the food chain the cuts have been savage and really bad for us from healthcare,meals on wheels,district nurses all that kind of stuff,in other words the basics of living,all this is ignored as it's hidden and no-one well off cares about it,we will never agree so god bless you hun
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Karen - I accept that which is why I want austerity to be softened and would love a party in the Middle. I would genuinely vote labour if Corbyn was not so far to the left. I did 3 times in the 90s. I am speaking as someone doing ok and don't want to rile People who are at the face of the cuts. Maybe if I was on the sick or ill I would think differently. My political views are just that a capitalist country promoting business helps all of us. I think the NHS is in dire stairs with our aged popikuation. I don't know what the long term answer on that is.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It's truly unbelievable that there's a Labour MP in that constituency.
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Indeed and Canterbury too. Shows the complacency of Sir Mont De Wally de honk or whatever his name is. The electorate are treated like mugs at times and it doesn't do any harm to those in glass towers to experience a bit of reality. Warrington South changed hands because the Tory Mp was invisible, is not from the area and clearly took for granted that he would win. Looking at some of the reduced majorities, labour were not far off winning this. The Scots vote didn't help either
 
worsleyweb said:
Not looking to be controversial and I know you won't agree and most in here with me but that is my honest opinion. They get criticised for not reducing the defecit fast enough and get cristised for marking cuts. Seems like cake and eat it to me. Of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
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Well that's because the left and right see the same problem differently.

I don't believe cuts lead to a better balance sheet.

I believe that the best way out of debt is to invest in education, infrastructure and social mobility of the working classes. You spend money to make it. As mentioned earlier, black people per head have larger crime rates, larger unemployment, lower incomes and less education. Now is there something genetically wrong with black people to cause This? Of course not. They have they problems because they are disproportionately represented in poor areas.

Poor areas lack good community policing so that leads to less investment from people in their community but also less social respect from youths there. Poor areas lack good schools. This leads to poorly educated people forced into a wage race to the bottom, with little chance of advancement into the professional classes. It leads to poorly educated parents too. Poor areas often lack good access to frontline services. This means that the drug and alcohol problems that are prevalent are not addressed which leads to even more social chaos.

What we want is for every single area to have great schools, great hospitals and great services. We want this because then there's more people starting businesses, more people earning great wages and ultimately more tax revenues coming in.

The left doesn't look purely as a here and now issue. We see that the best way to stimulate an economy is to create new and responsible taxpayers who earn good money rather than to cut the expenditure which helps their communities overcome the cycles that poverty creates.
 
Incredible. If the Tories had paired with Sien Fein there would have been a riot but paired with DUP that is OK. People obviously do not realise the alleged links they have had with protestant paramilitaries.
 
karen7 said:
You are a wum and you know it thats why you get stuff deleted
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My message that sed Britain absolutely should go into negotiations with the EU not ruling out walking away if a good deal can't be found? I stand by that. Only an idiot would walk into negotiations letting the opposite party know you wouldn't walk from a bad deal and you would accept a bad deal, it's simple stuff.
 
Struggling with wifi due to an electric storm in Cuba.. no check in for our flight either as the "Check in system is down... 2 hours and counting"

Damocles posted earlier an eloquent post that I can't now find and I penned this reply..

I'm interested in who let the needy down? Surely the puppeteers who engineered Corbyn's election.. I've never voted Labour in my life but after the campaign I might have done IF Corbyn hadn't been at the helm... I could not or would not compromise my own principles to overlook what he stands for..

My opinion, he does not deserve to lead the party and certainly doesn't deserve to become PM... a Leopard doesn't change its spots... nor will Jezzer

A very difficult scenario but one that is totally of Labour's making... McCluskey and Co need to take a long hard look at themselves.

If Chuka (sp) had stood and been elected I would probably have broken the habit of a lifetime and voted for him...

May has either been very badly advised or she has made the assumption that the electorate are idiots and again, my opinion, her campaign and her whole demeanour has had been totally removed from the mettle and personality needed for the role she occupies...

Regardless of the result, I agree with Damocles that a simple change of leadership is all that is needed... in that regard it's a shame that the vote of no confidence and leadership vote didn't pan out as expected because the only other option was the Welsh guy (I forget his name) who appeared to be unelectable also...the opponent had to have been hand picked by those who got Corbyn into the lead in the first place so as not to upset the status quo
 
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