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Andrew___K said:
Depends on your definition of 'worldclass'. But I can name at least one young RB with superstar potential - Benjamin Henrichs. Unfortunately, unavailable right now.
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Well just world class potential should do, also yes him I linked to on this thread a while back but he signed a contract extension, it just seems like there's a shortage on fullbacks in Europe right now. Maybe our South American scouts will find the new Alves and we can drag this out till the last minute and sign someone else just to teach Levy a lesson?
 
Roy Munson said:
Don't disagree mate. He doTs very well within the current Spurs setup. Simply pointing out that he isn't the mythical alchemist some of our fans think he is.

Be interesting to see how bigger money signings with bigger wages ,which Spurs are probably going to have to move towards in the next few years, will impact on how he operates.
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It's a very fine line. Once you pay silly money it opens a can of worms. Every player wants a raise

The fact that we can finish 3rd then 2nd with a wage bill half of Arsenal, Chelsea, City, United and Liverpool is a good sign. Levy deserves a pat on the back for that. When the likes of Coquellin, Bravo, Mingolet, Smalling, Jones, Terry, Fellani etc are all on more than any Spurs player shows there is a bigger problem elsewhere

as you said the next few years will be tricky for Levy
 
Metalartin said:
Well just world class potential should do, also yes him I linked to on this thread a while back but he signed a contract extension, it just seems like there's a shortage on fullbacks in Europe right now. Maybe our South American scouts will find the new Alves and we can drag this out till the last minute and sign someone else just to teach Levy a lesson?
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As I see it, such unexpected discoveries are impossible with modern scouting nets and databases. The talents are being discovered at U16 levels and are poached by big clubs immediately. I mean, you can't expect City to find an unknown readymade fullback somewhere in tropical forest just because our scouts are better.
 
Roy Munson said:
Don't disagree mate. He does very well within the current Spurs setup. Simply pointing out that he isn't the mythical alchemist some of our fans think he is.

Be interesting to see how bigger money signings with bigger wages ,which Spurs are probably going to have to move towards in the next few years, will impact on how he operates.
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Levi is an Ok chairman - they have bought well recently but they have won Naff all.

Years ago we were a very averagely run club up and down the divisions - OUR chairman has made us into one of the most valuable clubs on the planet and able to sign these players whilst running now at a profit. We will also win more than Spurs.

So I ask which is the best way Levi's or ours? As the poster says lets see how Levi does when the Spurs fans are in the new ground and expect more - i.e. trophies
 
Metalartin said:
If we keep paying over the odds sooner or later it will hamstring us, the people saying it doesn't matter don't know this they are just blindly assuming the powers that be(at City) have everything in check. The question is if we do walk away will these people complain and say we should have "just paid it" or accept that we have to start spending intelligently and the powers that be at City decided this wasn't good value?
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Its already hurting us. Its why Spurs have the balls to quote 50 mil for a fullback. If I were the one on the other side of the table (I know it doesn't happen that way, but lets imagine it did :p) I'd have slapped Levy with a wad of 50 Liras for having th audacity to even think 50 million, talkless utter the words into existence. Lol
 
mosssideblue said:
We agree :)
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Why agree with a lie? The solution is right there in his claim. Find a worth it foreign fullback and move Kolarov and Dihno. The very 2 names he mentioned.

And I'm.not even a front office guy. But I can see the possibilities.

Kolarov, Bravo, Dihno, and Ota. Are four foreign players who are unlikely to be starters. You can move any of them.


Lets go outside the box here

Henrichs in
Dihno out
Delph stays.

Henrichs a 14 million pound up and coming RB, with the best tackle/Interception combo of all fullbacks in the top 5 leagues. Comes in to learn from Alves and team up with him to dominate the RB position. He is bigger than Walker, just as rapid, a better crosser, uses both feet well. Way younger too. So more moldable. Boom! Full back problem solved.

Move Dihno on. Yes, its painful, great player, good lad, but closing in on 32 and showed a bit of decline last season. Unlikely to start at any position and mostly will probably be a deep backup next year. Sell for 8 million. Total Net spend on Right back? 6 million! Now that's putting together a good deal.



Keep Delph as the 6th CM instead. Sure he'll be injured a lot, but lets be real, the other 5 will play 95% of the games even if he or Digno were healthy for every game.

So issue solved. And we still have 3 wildcards we can move if the Mbappe thing shakes :)
 
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With the money in football now, especially in the premier league £50m is the new £25m? I just don't see the point in txiki negotiating for 3 or 4 weeks then paying the price anyway?
 
Metalartin said:
I'm not sure what your point is there, "we are loaded we can spend what we want" is not realistic though for me, I can just see the words administration error flashing up in a daily mail exclusive. :(

Joking aside though the point was would there be toys thrown out of the pram if City did start saying that's too much for this player? Or would they accept that someone has done the maths and that's that?
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We ain't run like a tinpot club like the scum are! what I post on here doesn't make One difference to what our owner do.

Our club will spend what they can afford to, if they think 50m for walker is fine they will pay it.
 
Dax777 said:
Lets go outside the box here

Henrichs in
Dihno out
Delph stays.
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So, let's see. You want to get rid of a player like Fernandinho who will still play an important role next season. At his age and salary we wouldn't get much for him and would almost end up giving away a 30M quality player, we'd also keep an injury prone player and try to buy a player that maybe isn't even for sale for much less than Walker for all we know.

The alternative is to spend a few million extra on Walker and keep Fernandinho. I know which I'd go for and which makes the most business sense.
 
Metalartin said:
I must admit I don't even know of any world class young foreign players who fit the mould... is there a foreign alternative available that anyone knows of? It's almost as if clubs stopped producing them.
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Lots. Kimmich, Weiser, Semedo, Henrichs, Perreira, Passlack, Bernado to name a few. True I haven't watched all of them deeply. But rated highly they all are.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
So, let's see. You want to get rid of a player like Fernandinho who will still play an important role next season. At his age and salary we wouldn't get much for him and would almost end up giving away a 30M quality player, we'd also keep an injury prone player and try to buy a player that maybe isn't even for sale for much less than Walker for all we know.

The alternative is to spend a few million extra on Walker and keep Fernandinho. I know which I'd go for and which makes the most business sense.
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Its not a few extra. Its about 25 to 30 million extra. Henrichs is rated as a 25 million Euros. Walker apparently is between 45 to 50 million Pounds. So we are talking a minimum of 25 million pounds being the difference. Its more than double the price.
 
Dax777 said:
Its already hurting us. Its why Spurs have the balls to quote 50 mil for a fullback. If I were the one on the other side of the table (I know it doesn't happen that way, but lets imagine it did :p) I'd have slapped Levy with a wad of 50 Liras for having th audacity to even think 50 million, talkless utter the words into existence. Lol
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It's not just 'us' hurting us, it's the kind of money the rags have paid in recent years, which we wouldn't. When they pay what they did for Martial & Pogba, etc all positions go up in cost, not just the 'stars'. They paid 30 million quid, for Luke Shaw. How much would that be, if they were signing him this season ? At least 50.

And imo it's not an accident, it's an attempt to stop 'lesser' clubs from signing players, just like FFP.

Without pushing up wages & transfer fees, the rags would never have had the succcess they did.

We will have to wear it to some extent.

Theh tried FFP to stop us, they can't stop us, but they can stop others & make things more difficult for us.
 
Dax777 said:
Keep Delph as the 6th CM instead. Sure he'll be injured a lo
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Delph has virtually never been fit when we have needed him and really is the antithesis of what we need. It's one thing keeping Kompany who, when he plays is a genuinely outstanding player and leader and another keeping Delph who although I think is a reasonable player is exactly what you don't need as a back up someone who is not reliable to fill in when you need them.
 
Dax777 said:
Its not a few extra. Its about 25 to 30 million extra. Henrichs is rated as a 25 million Euros. Walker apparently is between 45 to 50 million Pounds. So we are talking a minimum of 25 million pounds being the difference. Its more than double the price.
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Henrichs is for sale at that price is he? Despite having signed a new contract a few weeks ago? It's nothing to do with how much you or I value them at, it's how much the club would want and we have no idea how much they would want for him under the circumstances.

And you have pretty much given away Fernandinho who is worth probably in the region of 20-30M to us.
 
Dax777 said:
Its not a few extra. Its about 25 to 30 million extra. Henrichs is rated as a 25 million Euros. Walker apparently is between 45 to 50 million Pounds. So we are talking a minimum of 25 million pounds being the difference. Its more than double the price.
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But henrichs wanted to stay where he was Dax? I just think it's the fact that pep wants walker and the club are giving him what he wants
 
Troy deeney is valued at 30 million.

Bolaise went to Everton for 30 million

Luke shaw cost 32 million

Walker is miles and miles a better player than those sort of players.

The value is about right in today's market.
 
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