Arsenal home November sold out

We could renegotiate our Etihad deal for more than £30m per year if we wanted to. We could add a new sponsor to our shirt for another £5m per year. We could offload Bony, Nasri, Denayer and save £12m per year. etc etc etc

Why does that extra money be squeezed out of our pockets? Bayern are a much more successful club than us (financially and on the field) and they treat their fans with respect. We have a 55,000 seater stadium - Spurs have a 32,000 seater and have out performed us the past two seasons (despite not making as much as us of tickets).
We will renegotiate Etihad when the 10 years is up, we will renogotiate the kit deal this year, we are trying to offload players, non of which make the slghtest difference to last years figures, have spurs out performed us ? What have they won, how was their C/l or europa run ? How is their summer spending going ?
 
We could renegotiate our Etihad deal for more than £30m per year if we wanted to. We could add a new sponsor to our shirt for another £5m per year. We could offload Bony, Nasri, Denayer and save £12m per year. etc etc etc

Why does that extra money be squeezed out of our pockets? Bayern are a much more successful club than us (financially and on the field) and they treat their fans with respect. We have a 55,000 seater stadium - Spurs have a 32,000 seater and have out performed us the past two seasons (despite not making as much as us of tickets).

Excellent post. I do wonder if the north stand extension goes ahead the number of season tickets should be restricted and individual tickets sold at value prices.

For example in the South stand there are a number of season tickets at £299 which equates to 15 pound a game. Maybe selling those tickets for £20/25 each match would be a better idea. It could even be on a lottery basis.
 
Exactly, and as far as this mythical Joe is concerned he would probably like a 50% discount in every pub and only have to pay for a mini but buy a BMW 800 series. To stay competitive City have to charge competitive rates and as they go ticket prices for the Etihad are very competitive. Those who bleat about poor Joe need a reality check as I don't want to go back to the days when our legends were Dickov and Morrison no matter how committed they were at the time. We have the ability to make at least the top 4 every season and I for one prefer that to making the bottom 4 every season.
Hi Jack
I'm glad to see you're alright.
 
Since when have Everton been a top club? I read Huddersfield is a similar price at the end of the season.
I assume the Everton & Huddersfield games are being priced this way because they are a season opener, relatively local derbies, and possibly the end of season celebration of a League win. I'm sure there will be cheaper tickets all season, but that's what I see from the two ticket prices being complained about.
 
So what about Joe Smith who lives in Beswick who earns 270 quid a week on minimum wage and wants to go and see his favourite team.. well he's just been priced out straight away! And if he's got kids, then they won't be going either. Come on City!! Don't forget the true Manc supporters ( and one or two others ;-) ) who didn't let this club die when it was on its knees.
This is, indeed, an issue, but does the club price everything for that "lowest common denominator" fan (and I don't mean that in a derogatory manner) who can't afford anything...a shirt, a ticket, a night out with the wife, packa day fags, a car, etc, etc, etc..?

I am very fortunate and do not wish to decry the misfortune of others, but at some point, doesn't the club have to have the ability to recoup costs and run the c,in as the growing business we all want it to be? I look at last season and £20M in annual profits doesn't look to me to be anything to crow about! That equates to selling 40,000 season tickets for £500!

When does a fan's personal economic situation become the club's issue? Surely, that is when they can't sell out season tickets or game day tickets? We are far from that, so do we make some fans subsidize others?

What's the answer?

Personally, I think there are answers, some of which have been discussed here, but Sheikh Mansour is here to turn this club into a profit making enterprise, not another welfare outlet for people who made bad choices or are facing personal economic distress.
 
This is, indeed, an issue, but does the club price everything for that "lowest common denominator" fan (and I don't mean that in a derogatory manner) who can't afford anything...a shirt, a ticket, a night out with the wife, packa day fags, a car, etc, etc, etc..?

I am very fortunate and do not wish to decry the misfortune of others, but at some point, doesn't the club have to have the ability to recoup costs and run the c,in as the growing business we all want it to be? I look at last season and £20M in annual profits doesn't look to me to be anything to crow about! That equates to selling 40,000 season tickets for £500!

When does a fan's personal economic situation become the club's issue? Surely, that is when they can't sell out season tickets or game day tickets? We are far from that, so do we make some fans subsidize others?

What's the answer?

Personally, I think there are answers, some of which have been discussed here, but Sheikh Mansour is here to turn this club into a profit making enterprise, not another welfare outlet for people who made bad choices or are facing personal economic distress.
Knock 10k a week off all the players wages, might make it free for everyone.
All though in retrospect they might struggle to buy pie and chips on circa £100k a week.
 
Knock 10k a week off all the players wages, might make it free for everyone.
All though in retrospect they might struggle to buy pie and chips on circa £100k a week.
Just so I understand....

Tell people at the top of their profession, who may have one great contract in their lifetime, and who actually create all the revenue, to take a pay cut so that the person who didn't get off their arse and study, work hard, or be successful no matter what they tried, can get something (which, ironically, is the fruit of the labors of that professional!) for free? Err, OK!

And, one of the reasons you want to see them so badly is because they have never had the "luxury" of eating pie and chip with a six pack chaser every night, even though they may be making £100K per week! Choices, choices, choices.

Did I stumble into the Letters to the Editor of the New Socialist Weekly?

Sincerely,

Jack
 
Just so I understand....

Tell people at the top of their profession, who may have one great contract in their lifetime, and who actually create all the revenue, to take a pay cut so that the person who didn't get off their arse and study, work hard, or be successful no matter what they tried, can get something (which, ironically, is the fruit of the labors of that professional!) for free? Err, OK!

And, one of the reasons you want to see them so badly is because they have never had the "luxury" of eating pie and chip with a six pack chaser every night, even though they may be making £100K per week! Choices, choices, choices.

Did I stumble into the Letters to the Editor of the New Socialist Weekly?

Sincerely,

Jack
Hi Jack

Hope you're well and your knees are not too exercised from having to climb that tower of ivory to your office.
Most of my colleagues here feel that being at the top of your profession offers you the opportunities to do well for yourself without actually piling a ton of shit on your fellow human beings.
We understand the pecking order in the world we just don't see why some people, obviously not you comrade, would want to decrease the chances of others to aspire to be like their heroes. After all if we can't empathise with their plight as rarefied birds we may end up by ceasing their line.

Regards
squirtyflower, Karl, Leon and Vladimir.
 
Dear Squirty and friends,

Hope all is well in the trenches, and thanks for all the great work to keep my Ivory Tower polished. I have sent out minions to see if there is some way I can fix the system to put everyone on top, but as yet, we have not discovered the magic formula. Until then, we have decided to stick with the meritocracy model that has created the advances we have seen since I have been able to see the horizon from the Tower window.

Accordingly, we have free schools where you and your friends can go to learn the basics of how things work, as well as gaining the knowledge to make your own self a success. In fact, if you want to push yourself into the stratosphere of educational excellence, we have decided to make monies available to help you go to university and gain specialized knowledge in any area of interest you may wish to further explore in life. I hear "free" is something people understand, so I expect schools to be vibrant and full of learners desiring to succeed and gain their own Ivory Tower, whatever that might be for them.

However, I realize everyone isn't going to be able to excel, even at free, so we have decided to have a system that helps those amongst us who have been unable to leverage free into better. If they are too injured, we will have payments to help them. Even if they decided to just have more children than they can reasonably afford, we will have money for that, too. We will do our best to ensure the people who have a little more get to share their earned gains with others through our collective taxation system, and we will use some of that money to give everyone free healthcare. Hopefully, that will also help make some people less injured and more able to leverage that free knowledge they were too injured to use productively.

As always, we will do our best to make everything better, and as I'm sure everyone else will be doing their utmost, too, we can reasonably expect things to get better for all of us.

Here's to us!

Be well,

Jack
 
Just so I understand....

Tell people at the top of their profession, who may have one great contract in their lifetime, and who actually create all the revenue, to take a pay cut so that the person who didn't get off their arse and study, work hard, or be successful no matter what they tried, can get something (which, ironically, is the fruit of the labors of that professional!) for free? Err, OK!

And, one of the reasons you want to see them so badly is because they have never had the "luxury" of eating pie and chip with a six pack chaser every night, even though they may be making £100K per week! Choices, choices, choices.

Did I stumble into the Letters to the Editor of the New Socialist Weekly?

Sincerely,

Jack
Bet your favourite position was right wing.
 
Bet your favourite position was right wing.
Always voted Labour/Democrat, and was a union leader for almost a decade. Don't confuse my desire for everyone to work hard to reach their full potential with some notion that I don't believe in a helping hand IN LIFE. We, however, are discussing City tickets, as if they are access to education and health care, not a nice day out doing a hobby. Believe it or not, the desire to watch City live is NOT an entitlement anyone else is, or should ever be, required to provide. To paraphrase another poster, when we used to be a Ford Ka, we were more affordable. Today, we are a Bentley, with all that provides.

One doesn't have to be a hard over Socialist to believe in the working class, nor does one have to be wealthy to have some more conservative beliefs. Most people live in the middle ground, where life pays you what you are willing to kick and scrape for through the sweat of your brow and the nous between your ears.

I believe in the social safety net, but I also believe in working your way out of poverty. I'm a living breathing example, as are my brother and older sister. We were on welfare growing up, but we educated ourselves, either formally by going to university, or informally by increasing our work skills leading to greater opportunities. My brother used to walk the streets as Postman Pat. Now, he is a director at a large company....all through hard work, putting himself out there, and taking advantage of opportunities as they arose. I'm on my third career, seeking advancement every time, and I have lived overseas, away from my entire family, trying to make things better for myself. Sacrifice is sometimes required. I know, I've been down to my last few quid ($5!) literally, while living overseas without a job. My girlfriend (now wife) was feeding me, and when we married, her ring cost a tenner!

I don't actually have an Ivory Tower btw! Honest! :-)

P.S. Centre forward! Straight up the middle, scoring for fun! db
 

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