Veganism

kiam06 said:
Running down an animal isn't killing it are you bonkers?

Once it died of exhaustion did the man rip it open with his bare hands or bite into it? No he had tools.

Purely opportunistic in times of starvation.
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At least watch the fucking thing

2:57 "this was how man hunted before they had weapons"

You are proving to everyone that you are rather stupid.
 
It's the farming of animals to feed humans on mass that is abhorrent, i doubt people would eat meat so cheerfully if they could see the conditions and the process.
 
SWP's back said:
At least watch the fucking thing

2:57 "this was how man hunted before they had weapons"

You are proving to everyone that you are rather stupid.
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The video showed opportunistic humans nothing else. Please explain why we cook our meat? Don't see many Lions getting the BBQ out?
 
kiam06 said:
Waiting for the explanation on why we have to cook our meat to avoid food poisoning that should be a good one.
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Our bodies evolved to process cooked foods more efficiently after we developed fire and cooking! Raw foods are much harder to digest, taking longer and burning more calories. So if you are in survivor mode, you would want everything cooked so as not to deplete as much energy simply digesting your food.
 
SWP's back said:
Our bodies evolved to process cooked foods more efficiently after we developed fire and cooking! Raw foods are much harder to digest, taking longer and burning more calories. So if you are in survivor mode, you would want everything cooked so as not to deplete as much energy simply digesting your food.
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By harder to digest you mean good poisoning? E coli?

Come in now you're disappearing up your own backside with this argument.

If I follow my car around it will eventually drop dead does that make me a hunter and omnivore? Does it balls.
 
kiam06 said:
The video showed opportunistic humans nothing else. Please explain why we cook our meat? Don't see many Lions getting the BBQ out?
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It is easier to digest and requires less energy to break down. It also enables us to absorb more of the energy available and has been proven.
Not being an arse i just know this as i studied it a bit last year.
 
kiam06 said:
The video showed opportunistic humans nothing else. Please explain why we cook our meat? Don't see many Lions getting the BBQ out?
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Because humans have evolved further you plank. Don't see many lions flying planes either.

The video showed modern humans (and the only tribe in the world that still hunt in a similar manner to our early ancestors), it was not a video from 250,000 years ago.

You keep on with your "opportunistic" bollocks all you want. You're talking bollocks and you know it however you've painted yourself into a corner and haven't realised that simply fucking off the thread would be much better than proving to the reader that you are hopelessly out of your depth, which is a puddle.
 
kiam06 said:
By harder to digest you mean good poisoning? E coli?

Come in now you're disappearing up your own backside with this argument.

If I follow my car around it will eventually drop dead does that make me a hunter and omnivore? Does it balls.
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can you stop being wrong? It's getting quite tedious.
 
kiam06 said:
The video showed opportunistic humans nothing else. Please explain why we cook our meat? Don't see many Lions getting the BBQ out?
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I urge you to have a watch of Alice Roberts' " The Incredible Human Journey" before you post again on this subject.
 
kiam06 said:
By harder to digest you mean good poisoning? E coli?

Come in now you're disappearing up your own backside with this argument.

If I follow my car around it will eventually drop dead does that make me a hunter and omnivore? Does it balls.
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Why would your car die? You mean it will run out of petrol? What the fuck are you on about?

Which part of "our bodies evolved to process cooked meat" do you not understand? You do realise that the species of hominid before the mastery of fire didn't suffer from E. coli as the digestive system was such (like orangutans) to digest raw meat. By mastering fire and cooking we in effect remove a layer of digestion, this enabled the body to focus energy (and calories) on other areas, such as the brain, although you're doing a fucking good of showing that brain power isn't for everyone.
 
dronefromsector7G said:
I think Kiam makes some good points. The fact he is being insulted snows he's winning the argument here.
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Yeah, list these good points.

He's being insulted as he's a fucking idiot who is ignoring every rational argument out before him. He "lol'd" at the thought of humans running their pray down for a start.
 
SWP's back said:
Why would your car die? You mean it will run out of petrol? What the fuck are you on about?

Which part of "our bodies evolved to process cooked meat" do you not understand? You do realise that the species of hominid before the mastery of fire didn't suffer from E. coli as the digestive system was such (like orangutans) to digest raw meat. By mastering fire and cooking we in effect remove a layer of digestion, this enabled the body to focus energy (and calories) on other areas, such as the brain, although you're doing a fucking good of showing that brain power isn't for everyone.
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"Our bodies evolved to process cooked meat" is complete bull shit.
 
SWP's back said:
like orangutans
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i like them
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dronefromsector7G said:
I think Kiam makes some good points. The fact he is being insulted snows he's winning the argument here.
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I'm a meat eater too! Just had a nice piece of chicken for lunch doesn't mean I can't admit its wrong on every level and I'm pretty much putting my health at risk.

SWP hasn't been too bad with the insults to be fair I'm used to worse on here he's entitled to his opinion.
 
kiam06 said:
I'm a meat eater too! Just had a nice piece of chicken for lunch doesn't mean I can't admit its wrong on every level and I'm pretty much putting my health at risk.

SWP hasn't been too bad with the insults to be fair I'm used to worse on here he's entitled to his opinion.
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but you aren't putting your health at risk. You actually put your health at risk if you don't eat it and supplement your diet with (often artificial) alternatives to replace the contribution the meat makes.
 
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